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    Default CSCC Ghost Lake Rallycross Info Posted

    Hey All,

    Rallycross INFO:

    We are planning 4 event ICE Cup at Ghost Lake. This is not to replace the CSCC Rallycross series but rather try something different while we work on the new venue for next year’s DiRT Cup.

    Dates:
    Jan 20
    Feb 3
    Feb 17
    Mar 3

    The event format stays the same, with two heats, 3-4 runs per heat, cumulative total of a participants two fastest laps, one from the morning and one from the afternoon.
    Series results will be based on the best 3 finishes.

    Three classes: FWD, RWD and AWD

    The new stuff:

    In the email from SRD it was made clear that we have to preserve the stream, lake bed and shore line.
    We will collect the garbage and have a spill kits at the site.

    Please make sure you come to the event with mechanically sound car, if during the pre event inspection we notice your car drips fluids you will be ask to leave.

    During the discussion at the CSCC meeting the decision was made to require each participant to park vehicle on tarp in parking area. We are aware of other clubs doing this and we also believe it’s a good preventative measures.

    As for the tires:

    Commercially available DOT tires only.

    Commercially available street studs only.

    No screws or bolts, rally, zamboni or other oversize studs.

    We’re still looking for a gravel lot; If anybody has any possible leads please send me a note rally at altadadecorating dot com
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    Can't wait for this, I regret not getting my tires studded now but it should be lots of fun.

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    Miata would be a blast. Hmmmm.

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    The benefit of masks is not known at this time. But we do know it is some non-trivial amount more than zero.

    We also know that the cost of mask use is, essentially, zero.

    So the cost:benefit of mask use is approaching infinity. I'll take that every time. And every time I see someone without a mask, I think they are stupid.

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    how muchy?
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    I wanna know how much too. Definitely interested... Also what safety equipment is required?

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    price has not been decided yet, stay tuned for more info, its coming, slowly.

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    Ohhh yes, been wanting to try this!
    Originally posted by 89coupe
    I do get great service there, especially when I mention my name, haha.

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    update yay!!!!!!

    http://cscc.speedracer.ca/forums/ind...;topicseen#new

    [quote author=PrezeS_PL link=topic=11589.msg61497#msg61497 date=1357752558]
    CSCC 2013 Winter RallyCross “ICE Cup”
    Program Overview



    1 INTRODUCTION

    Welcome to the 2013 Winter RallyCross “ICE Cup” presented by the Calgary Sports Car Club(CSCC). As much as I loved the lot at the Race City, I think a frozen lake will provide us all with just as much excitement and fun.

    RallyCross is a recreational off-road solo2 event in which participants compete individually against the clock on a temporary pylon course setup on a gravel parking lot. The “ICE Cup” will be four event series taking place on snow covered frozen lake and if things go well we will have a “DiRT Cup” later this year on more familiar gravel surface.
    Series will be held at Ghost Lake, and this document provides a program overview of the CSCC 2013 AutoCross Program.

    2 SCHEDULE
    We are planning 4 event series

    Jan 20: Event 1
    Feb 3: Event 2
    Feb 17: Event 3
    Mar 3: Event 4

    3 ENTRY FEE
    registered on Karelo
    CSCC Member - $30 per participant
    Nonmember - $40 per participant

    registered at the site
    CSCC Member - $40 per participant
    Nonmember - $50 per participant


    (two participants per car is allowed, more than two is not)

    4 PRIZES
    swag from participating sponsors!


    5 LOCATION
    Ghost Lake just west of Cochrane, a 45-60 min drive from most places in Calgary.

    - Note that strict control of event site is strongly enforced. No warm-up, fast, or spirited driving allowed anywhere within the lake (other than on the AutoCross track).

    6 WEATHER AND EVENT CANCELLATION
    Event will run rain or shine and at all temps above -25 degrees. All participants are encouraged to check the CSCC Web Board one day before to check for event updates or changes.

    7 COMPETITION FORMAT
    Double Heat format
    3-4 timed runs in both the morning and afternoon heats.
    Result is based on the cumulative total of a participants two(2) fastest laps, one(1) from the morning and one(1) from the afternoon.
    Run in three simple car classes: all wheel drive, front wheel drive, rear wheel drive

    8 SERIES FORMAT
    Series results will be based on the best 3 finishes for the season.
    In each of the car classes, points will be assigned for each event to the top 12 finishers in the value 20 for first in class, 16 for second, 14, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
    Points classing may change prior to first event, but not after.

    Also this year we will be running a rookie championship! Rookies will be based on 5 or less rallycross events in the past seasons.

    9 EVENT SCHEDULE

    Afternoon of the day before each race, Course setup
    8:00-9:30 Course and Timing Setup
    8:00-9:30 Registration and Tech
    9:30-9:45 Drivers Meeting
    10:00-15:00ish Timed Runs
    15:00ish-16:30 Fun Runs and clean up

    Please make sure to arrive on time to help facilitate schedule.

    10 EVENT OUTLINE
    Volunteers
    - It takes at least 8 dedicated volunteers (and involved, cooperative participants!) to run a successful event. Please come out a bit early and help set up or volunteer to help with tech inspection or timing. As a minimum all competitors are required to spend one half of the event marshalling.

    Registration
    - upon arrival, all participants and spectators are to report to Registration.
    - All participants and spectators will sign any/all waivers for event
    - Participants will:
    - Pay event entry
    - Fill out entry form if a new participant. Car number will be assigned at this time

    Technical Inspection
    - Following registration participants are to claim a position in the paddock/parking area and prepare the vehicle for the event. Parking in designated area on nylon tarp only, a minimum of a two car widths must be left between parked cars. Remove all loose articles.
    - Report to the Tech Inspection rep when your vehicle is ready for inspection.
    - Please try to stay with your vehicle until it has been inspected. Drivers should be present during tech inspection.
    - In order to be allowed to complete a vehicle will be checked to ensure that:
    - Seat belts are in good working condition (stock three-point seat belts are acceptable)
    - Acceptable pressure in brake system (pedal doesn't hit the floor!)
    - No loose items in the vehicle
    - Battery securely fascinated (no bungee cords!)
    - Brake Fluid levels within vehicle prescribed limits (no leaking fluids of any kind!)
    - Tires in safe operating condition
    - Wheel bearings not loose and all wheel nuts acceptable
    - Participant has a M2000 or newer SNELL approved helmet

    Note: Parking on tarps only, remember to bring one with you, Princess Auto is good source for inexpensive tarp.

    Tires
    - Commercially available DOT tires only.
    - Commercially available street studs only (No screws or bolts, rally, zamboni or other oversize studs)
    Winter tires are not mandatory but we highly recommend using them.
    Note that the marshal and organizers have the right to deny entry to any vehicle deemed unsafe (with a full entry fee refund supplied). The organizers also have the right to re-tech any vehicle at any time and deny further participation of the vehicle if deemed unsafe.

    Drivers Meeting
    - All participants are required to attend the drivers meeting.

    Timed Runs
    Cars will be divided into two or three run groups (depending on number of competitors). 3 to 4 runs per participant before rotation of groups. During drivers meeting the initial tasking and rotation order will be established.

    Marshals:
    - all competitors are expected to marshal
    Ensure you have warm clothes and appropriate footwear,
    It’s recommended you invest in pair of ice grippers (something like this
    http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Footwe...ion-device.jsp)


    Your responsibility when Marshaling is:
    - Remaining alert and watching for problems or unsafe conditions on the track
    - Identifying dangers to and stopping competitors
    - Maintaining radio contact with Race Control
    - Reporting and Replacing displaced cones
    - Watching other competitors, learning, and having fun
    - Keeping warm

    11 Other Rules and Regulations
    These events are held under the spirit of the CNAC Rulebook. All of sections 3 and 4 of the CNAC Regulations apply.

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    Might think about coming out and getting my ass kicked on 205 wide non studded tires and RWD

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    Definitely going to come out. I've got 175 non-studded so I'm banking on heavy snow to make a decent showing.

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    Originally posted by Kramerica
    Definitely going to come out. I've got 175 non-studded so I'm banking on heavy snow to make a decent showing.
    good for about the first 5 cars if that, im speaking from experience, lol and it only gets worse as the day goes

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    Highly polished ice is what you will get. Buy some YakTrax if you value your life when standing out on the ice marshalling. Or even if you want to be able to stand...
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    How rough does it get out there for those that have done this before?

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    Not rough at all. Long as you got 4+ inches of ground clearance you're good.
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    YUS! Im down

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    Very interested in doing this!

    Just to clarify: does it HAVE to be studded or can studless winters apply?


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    The benefit of masks is not known at this time. But we do know it is some non-trivial amount more than zero.

    We also know that the cost of mask use is, essentially, zero.

    So the cost:benefit of mask use is approaching infinity. I'll take that every time. And every time I see someone without a mask, I think they are stupid.

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    Studless is fine -- I believe quite a few people are in that boat. The phrase "you are going to lose" has been used at least once

    This is a regular club event, so do dress *very* warm -- you will be standing outside on the lake surface for an hour or more when marshalling (chasing cones). And seriously, buy some grippers for your shoes or you won't be able to get out of the way when a car starts sliding in your direction. And don't forget a tarp for your car to park on in the pits -- it is mandatory.
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    Spectators? I did read the thread but may have missed. Might run the S4 Avant on studs... Just a little worried about the terrain and losing a front bumper ....

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    Any word? I picture the ice being nice a groomed so to speak. I will come prepared to enter the event, but may opt out when I see the terrain.

    Looking forward!

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