Idle No More protests target bridges, roads across Canada

[Type_S1]

I would hope the CPS were to do that. I would sue the CPS, police cheif, all officers involved, the city of Calgary etc. etc. for a long long list of things but the focus would be on the inequality and racism shown by the city and it's employees who are hired to protect citizens rights.

I discussed the possibility of non natives being arrested for counter protesting with a few lawyers over lunch this week and if it was to happen heads would roll in our city from the sounds of it. Whoever sued would be getting a nice settlement as well.

I would tend to agree with the comment above regarding CPS. It is quite clear they only care about meeting their ticket quota and not creating any more work for themselves. You would think individuals in the CPS would have some moral code to actually uphold justice and protect tax paying citizens instead of acting the way they do.

[403Gemini]

Thing that scares me is, would they move for an emergency vehicle like a fire truck or EMS? I'd like to think yes, but part of my believes the idiots would think "This is a fine time to make an example of how much 'power' we actually have!"

[JustGo]

Well, my comment was certainly taken out of context. It's not a matter of 'laziness'. I'm just trying to illustrate that everyone wants the police to simply go in and start arresting people. Our job, unfortunately, is NOT that simple. Are there legal grounds to make an arrest? In most of these cases, probably yes. But if the police go in there to arrest, and the protestors decide to get stupid, and someone ends up getting seriously injured, or even killed, guess who the bad guys are? The police go in, violence erupts, one dumb protestor grabs for an officers gun and ends up getting shot. Guess who's all over the news as an innocent victim in a peaceful protest? Am I 'lazy' for not wanting that to happen? So many people are looking at the small picture here. It's so easy to criticize when it's not your career on the line. I personally find these protests outrageous, and I'm as pissed off as the next guy.

These protesters WANT us to go in there and grab them and arrest them. They WANT to have a day in court. They WANT any reason to try and be the 'victim' to another government organization. Why are we in such a hurry to give them exactly what they want?

Like I said, personally, I'm really as frustrated and annoyed as anyone, but policing is simply not as easy as running in, rootin' tootin' shootin'. Some days I wish it was.

[dirtsniffer]

^good point.
The more we ignore these people the sooner they'll leave and go home. Protesting the grey eagle would be hilarious though.

[403Gemini]

I feel bad for the front line officers. I mean every job has their fair share of red tape, but cops have it pretty bad. JustGo pretty much hit the nail on the head with their limitations and it's got to be bloody frustrating knowing what should be done within the confines of the law, but with the risk to it as well.


JustGo , just curious - what would happen with police presence where a truck (like the one in Edmonton) tried driving through the 'blockade' and seeing the natives kicking it / jumping on it? Would anything be done to them? (I didnt see any police in the video so I suspect they weren't present).

I know you can't give a definitive answer, since every situation changes... just wondering what the initial reaction/thoughts would be for the police.

[JustGo]

Me, personally, I would have been grabbing those idiots by the feet and pulling their ass off that truck. *



















*See: phil98z24's signature.

[403Gemini]

Fair enough

Feels like we're (Canadian's) are playing 'chicken' with them and both sides are waiting to see who escalates to violence/vandalism first.

Hope everybody just stays as calm as possible with this entire situation. It'd be pretty tough for me if people were climbing all over my car yelling at me, especially if I had the wife in the car with me. I mean, what if that woman had kids in the backseat and these people are slapping her windows and shit

[codetrap]

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[JustGo]

I would hope the FN is starting to realize this whole thing is backfiring on them. It's becoming the straw that broke the camels back. They played the victim card one too many times. They were hoping we would all feel sorry for them, yet it's accomplished just the opposite. I think they may be starting to realize this, and all these roadblocks and threats of violent acts are them panicking to try and get back some control. I really hope for the sake of our entire country that the government doesn't cave. They are just digging their own graves here. They will bury themselves soon enough. No need for us to sink to their level.

[revelations]

This is one cause I would get behind. If someone can setup a time/place and phone the city (and media) it would be a great PR move for us all against the deception.

Originally posted by vengie


Nothing has been officially organized as of yet, just a lot of talk much like through this board. But there has been a lot of commitment. Just needs someone to organize it and the numbers would be there.

Anyone want to spear head it??

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by JustGo
I would hope the FN is starting to realize this whole thing is backfiring on them. It's becoming the straw that broke the camels back. They played the victim card one too many times. They were hoping we would all feel sorry for them, yet it's accomplished just the opposite. I think they may be starting to realize this, and all these roadblocks and threats of violent acts are them panicking to try and get back some control. I really hope for the sake of our entire country that the government doesn't cave. They are just digging their own graves here. They will bury themselves soon enough. No need for us to sink to their level.

Agree. Every day they put up blockades, the more public support they lose, and I hope the government realizes that. Polls last week, the support was about mid 40% from the general public. Now, it's mid teens tops. 30% drop after their blockades, way to go guys!

[SJW]

Originally posted by codetrap
I'd be down for protesting the grey eagle...

With this site and social media there'd be huge support.

[blitz]

If you guys do blockade the Casino, be sure to make sure it's not just white guys. If you can get some ethnic diversity in the people that show up, it should minimize the inevitable "racist" twist they'll try to put on it.

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by blitz
If you guys do blockade the Casino, be sure to make sure it's not just white guys. If you can get some ethnic diversity in the people that show up, it should minimize the inevitable "racist" twist they'll try to put on it.

True enough, can't just be us honkeys and whiteys out there

[FraserB]

Originally posted by 403Gemini


Agree. Every day they put up blockades, the more public support they lose, and I hope the government realizes that. Polls last week, the support was about mid 40% from the general public. Now, it's mid teens tops. 30% drop after their blockades, way to go guys!

Was reading today that something like 60% of people already think that they get enough funding, 80% think they are causing their own problems and less than 10% think there is good fiscal management going on.

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by JustGo
One thing is certain, there is bound to be case law coming out of this at some point.

Like Phil said, we all know this is a nuisance, but I think I would be in the majority if I said I would rather spend a week answering why I haven't been arresting every native person blocking a roadway, than 3 years in court proceedings explaining my actions. I wish 'because beyond told me to' was a good enough reason. Police going in and arresting people will have such ridiculously far reaching ramifications, it's easy to sit here and look through tunnel vision and only see the quick fix, but you have to understand the consequences of this when it eventually goes to court.

I can already see the 'excessive force' complaints from every native person arrested. All the arms in casts, no matter how gently the cuffs were put on. It's going to be a shit show.

Because that's how it totally went down with the G8 summit, right? Oh wait a minute, that was mainly white people, arrest at will with no reasonable grounds. I'm not saying this to you specifically, just how incredibly racist the government is being against us Caucasians. I'm totally down for a protest.

[C_Dave45]

Originally posted by rx7_turbo2


Well we got our answer as to why nothing is being done folks.

I had no idea that part of the decision making an Officer makes involves how long they'll have to be in court. That statement scares the SHIT out of me, am I alone? The fact an officer decides whether or not they're going to uphold the law based on whether it will require additional work? Yikes.

Your avatar clearly matches the intelligence displayed in your post. That really IS you, isn't it?

[Grogador]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1
Because that's how it totally went down with the G8 summit, right? Oh wait a minute, that was mainly white people, arrest at will with no reasonable grounds. I'm not saying this to you specifically, just how incredibly racist the government is being against us Caucasians. I'm totally down for a protest.

Was just looking this up to post something similar but I kept coming up with G20 riot stuff. Anyway it's interesting the cops are letting this slide, as eventually this will come to a head and somebody will get hurt.

[JustGo]

Let's not forget who these protestors are. Most of these people protesting are the lazy ones waiting for free money to come rolling in. I'm going to venture a guess that protesting for an extended period of time is simply too much work for most of them.

Comparing these protestors to those at G8 and G20 is almost insulting to the dedicated hippies at the summits....

[hampstor]

Originally posted by CompletelyNumb


So if there`s a counter protest at the casino, will they be given the same leeway?

Doubtful. If Occupy Calgary was an example, they will not be lienient with counter-protestors. There was a guy who in a counter-protest, parked his truck in olympic plaza in a mock-protest. Bylaw moved in, gave him some tickets, and towed his truck.