I Don't Know What Kind of X5 Canem Auto Gallery Sold Me

[colt22]

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[zipdoa]

WOW.

That is brutal.

Have you contacted AMVIC? Sounds like whoever owned the vehicle when it was flood damaged did not go through insurance, so that's why it didn't show up on the CarProof (you did read the CarProof, right?)

AMVIC is your best bet at this point.

edit:

apparently tl;dr - yes, contact the Motor Vehicle Sales authority of British Columbia.

Also, the Dealership that sold you the vehicle should've noted that the rotors and pads needed replacing.

http://www.mvsabc.com/

[Ntense_SpecV]

Originally posted by colt22
Hey guys,

Just looking for some quick advise and direction regarding my case and any possible resolutions that may exist.

In december 2012 I travelled to Kelowna, BC to Canem Auto Gallery to purchase a used 2005 BMW x5 4.8is. The car came with a clean title and a single collision for $868.00 of damage.- it was not mentioned what the issue was or what happened. I I assumed it to be a dent or something insignificantly superficial. Everything else checked out mechanically at the point of the sale and nothing about a flood was ever brought up. I Drove the car home after paying $27,288 in cash and returned to Calgary to complete a out-of-province inspection which it passed after a 1,400 brake job. I used the car for the next month and a half with no issues.

Fast forward to this week (feb17-21). I was in the process of selling the vehicle after realizing the X5 wasn't really my thing (gas, size, missed a stick transmission). On a test drive my interior and exterior lights began to act up, flickering in unison. A trip to Alpine Autowerkes for diagnosis revealed that the car has been in the flood and the x5 is essentially rendered un-driveable from this point on. There is corrosion, silt and sand in the electrical compartments and there were attemps to mitigate the electrical damage where someone had placed extra grounding connections. My mechanic very definitively stated the car was flooded and it is a write off.

As of now, I have called my insurance and there is nothing they can do. I have called the dealer and they claim to have no knowledge of the flooding.

Do I have any recourse, legal or otherwise that I can pull myself out of this situation? I would be about $28k if there is no solution and that would be incredibly devastating.

Thanks

How did you find out about the collision? Did they disclose this, or did you do a carproof?

[colt22]

edited. Carproof was done and showed no salvage title. Does AMVIC do well in situations like this?

[7thgenvic]

This is something Gallery of Fine Cars would pull...

[flipstah]

I will subscribe to this thread to know the outcome.

On a sidenote, how come nothing showed up in the OOP inspection? I haven't done one so I don't know what they ACTUALLY check.

GL, OP!

[yellowsnow]

that blows man... you might have to go through small claims court for this if the dealer is not going to do anything. Who knows, they could be telling the truth and knew nothing of the flood damage. They probably bought the SUV in an auction, and it had a clean title with a minor damage claim.

I'm wondering how did the car pass the OOP inspection?

[DeleriousZ]

The fuuuuuck?? That's brutal man. I had heard that Canem was a pretty decent place, but this makes me kinda think otherwise.

Originally posted by flipstah
I will subscribe to this thread to know the outcome.

On a sidenote, how come nothing showed up in the OOP inspection? I haven't done one so I don't know what they ACTUALLY check.

GL, OP!

OOPI's are pretty damn thorough, but IIRC they don't pop open the ecu or other electrical control stuff to check.

[Ntense_SpecV]

I was told by a friend that the mechanic can actually be held liable if they pass a car OPP illegally. Anyone know if this is true?

[ndhal417]

Contact these guys: http://www.mvsabc.com/ they are BCs version of AMVIC. They might be able to help you out. Is it originally an American vehicle? Do all the VIN plates have the same VIN number? You can try a car fax and see if anything shows up on it. This is a pretty common way for dealers to sell stolen or flood damaged vehicles.

[Sugarphreak]

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[spikerS]

WoW, well, I would assume that your first stop would have to be a lawyer. Hopefully he can trace it back to the original seller of it. Having said that, I think the buck would stop with the BC dealer, who is obviously claiming ignorance.

take it to BMW directly, rather than Alpine, as they are the experts on the car.

[JustinMCS]

Wow! That is horrendous there is an obvious cover up. What if the dealership didn't do the covering up and they got it like this from auction or something? This sucks!

[rage2]

Originally posted by spikers
take it to BMW directly, rather than Alpine, as they are the experts on the car.

I don't think you need to be an expert to see that "There is corrosion, silt and sand in the rear electrical compartments and there were attemps to mitigate the electrical damage as apparently someone had placed extra grounding connections everywhere to circumvent the shorting."

[spikerS]

Originally posted by rage2

I don't think you need to be an expert to see that "There is corrosion, silt and sand in the rear electrical compartments and there were attemps to mitigate the electrical damage as apparently someone had placed extra grounding connections everywhere to circumvent the shorting."

absolutely, but if this ends up in court, it would be best to have the statement made by the experts, not the aftermarket install shop.

[JRSC00LUDE]

One would think that the dealership would be able to remember where they got the car and shift the onus onto that person or place.

[shakalaka]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


FYI: Small claims court is limited to damages of 5000$.... OP is way over that.

The Provincial Court of Alberta can hear cases with claims of up to $25,000. Anything higher needs to go to the Queen's Bench. OP has the option to sever his claim down to $25K to bring it to the jurisdiction of the Provincial Court. There are advantages like it being cheaper and faster than the QB. For a claim of $28K, it is probably going to be better to drop it down to $25K and run this in the Provincial Court.

[CanmoreOrLess]

OP: Is this a USA registered vehicle?

The dealer, knowing the vehicle history or not, will deny, deny, deny until a force greater than a long distance customer applies pressure. Canem Auto is a member of the BBB, contact them and a lawyer. You are not getting anywhere without a lawyer plain and simple. Having their name on Beyond is going to cause them some concern, it is a start,

There has obviously been fraudulent behaviour when:

There is corrosion, silt and sand in the electrical compartments and there were attemps to mitigate the electrical damage where someone had placed extra grounding connections. My mechanic very definitively stated the car was flooded and it is a write-off.

The Canem website states:

Canem Auto Gallery does not deal in vehicles with rebuilt status and all inventories come with fully disclosed ICBC documentation so you can buy with confidence.

http://www.canemauto.ca/dealership/history.htm

Who knows if this is a scam or ripoff, what Google will tell the world is that CANEM AUTO GALLERY in Kelowna is not to be trusted by anyone until this is settled and all the details are known. The sales manager Brian Matassa also needs to be held accountable.

[Sugarphreak]

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[hurrdurr]

First you paid $10k too much for an 05 X5 and then it's a flooded car? Harsh - Good luck man