Ford Trucks Thread WAS:EcoBoost Thread

[Tik-Tok]

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and after playing with it for a while tonight, YYC to Van and back on a single tank? Fuggedaboutit.

You mean you don't get less than 5L/100kms on the highway, through the mountains?

[spikerS]

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You mean you don't get less than 5L/100kms on the highway, through the mountains?

LOL, no. With the reduced gas tank size, it looks like this truck will get about the same distance traveled as my 2019 with the 136L tank and 3.5L EB. If someone was dedicated enough to hypermile the shit out of it, a person MIGHT be able to get it down into the 8's. Add the mountains into that, and there is no hope.

Having said that, the tech is freaking cool in this truck!

[Darkane]

I’ve hypermiled a 2018 3.5L and best I got on the highway travel is 9.5.

What did I do to hypermile?

Well the usual for a pickup

Over inflated tires
I actually drove on 80-90km roads
Manually shifted the trans into 10th at 82km/hr as it wouldn’t in auto sometimes
Neutral coast down hills, and to stop signs
Only cruise control on straights, never up or down hills

And circling back to the tires, this was an F150 XLT with a 301a with the skinny 17” 245 tires. Not the 20” 275s people have and claim to get to Vancouver and back. Lol!

3.55 gears, and tonneu as well.

Hypermilling sucks, not fun.

[ExtraSlow]

Yeah, I've heard a few guys around the same. Never heard anyone I believe do better than 9.

I've done around 10 at best, but my normal is 11-12.

[spikerS]

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Yeah, I've heard a few guys around the same. Never heard anyone I believe do better than 9.

I've done around 10 at best, but my normal is 11-12.

I don't know how I did it, but I managed to get 8 in my 2012 from my house by the airport down to Okotoks and back according to the trip computer. Was never able to replicate it.

Mind you, my 2012 also had the 3.13 gearing which i think made the difference. The powerboost is only available with the 3.73 gears though.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

I'm a little shocked at the difference between the calculated mileage and the actual. My last few tanks, the computer told me I was ~11.1-11.2L/100km (driving 24/7 in eco mode). When I filled up, it worked out to ~12.8L/100km. Is that normal, to see that kind of difference? In my GTI, calculated vs actual was only around 0.1-0.2L/100km difference.

[zechs]

I've done 9.5L/100km at 112km/h all on a H2 roundtrip on summer gasoline. Locked the 10 speed into 7th, truck has 3.73 rear end. Used cruise control, no wind at all (I find wind massively changes the ecoboost numbers). I can get better without cruise, but I find it impossible to maintain a remotely steady pace.

On winter gas, I find mpg is poor enough that 7th or 8th doesnt make much difference like in the summer.

[Darkane]

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I've done 9.5L/100km at 112km/h all on a H2 roundtrip on summer gasoline. Locked the 10 speed into 7th, truck has 3.73 rear end. Used cruise control, no wind at all (I find wind massively changes the ecoboost numbers). I can get better without cruise, but I find it impossible to maintain a remotely steady pace.

On winter gas, I find mpg is poor enough that 7th or 8th doesnt make much difference like in the summer.

7th is good for approaching hills. On my 2.7 with 3.55 at 100kph it puts me right at the torque peak. Uses the least amount of throttle input to maintain. Again a terrible and unfun way to drive.

[spikerS]

Well, day 3 with the new truck, and I gotta say, I am really liking it. Fit and finish is way better than the last gen, ride quality, cabin quietness, touch points... Everything is just better.

The hybrid system is pretty good too. I am slowly starting to figure out it's nuances and how to really take advantage of it. Smaller commutes where I stay under 60kph, I am able to figure out how to get about 40%+ electric kms out of it. Not sure where the upper number can go, but once I have the motor fully broken in, I intended to test it.

As for power, I don't know yet. I haven't jumped hard on the skinny pedal yet since it is not broken in yet. Have just under 500kms on it so far.

Things I hate. Just one thing really. The artificial Noise the truck makes when in electric mode. It sounds fucking horrible. Like REALLY bad. I don't have a sound to compare it to, but it is like nails on a chalkboard to me. I need to find a way to silence that. I don't mind the backup alarm at all.

Also, I wish android auto integration was more seamless. On the last gen, it would take over the media stack, and you had little interaction with the stock sync 3 system. Now with sync 4, android auto seems to operate in "windowed" mode. You can't escape sync 4 no matter what I have tried. Ford has designed it so you are pretty much forced to use the sync 4 environment unless you do extra steps to use android auto, every time. Really annoying as I really like android auto, and would prefer to use it.

Other than those 2 gripe points, I am really enjoying my new truck, and the hybrid is pretty cool. No regrets here.

[cyra1ax]

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Also, I wish android auto integration was more seamless. On the last gen, it would take over the media stack, and you had little interaction with the stock sync 3 system. Now with sync 4, android auto seems to operate in "windowed" mode. You can't escape sync 4 no matter what I have tried. Ford has designed it so you are pretty much forced to use the sync 4 environment unless you do extra steps to use android auto, every time. Really annoying as I really like android auto, and would prefer to use it.

Apple Carplay is the same, it's windowed and you can't get rid of that right side display to full screen it. Annoyingly, if you use the stock nav/map, you're able to full screen that and dismiss the right side display.
What extra steps are required for Android Auto that you have to do on every startup? Does it not just pop up automagically when you plug in?

[ExtraSlow]

When is wireless android auto coming?

[brucebanner]

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When is wireless android auto coming?

It's here.

I don't have to plug in for it to work but I also have to play with my settings again, lately AA doesn't connect and it just connects to the default Bluetooth. That may be my fault since I was playing around with things before this started happening.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

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When is wireless android auto coming?

I have and use it daily in my 2021.

[ExtraSlow]

Nice.

[spikerS]

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Apple Carplay is the same, it's windowed and you can't get rid of that right side display to full screen it. Annoyingly, if you use the stock nav/map, you're able to full screen that and dismiss the right side display.
What extra steps are required for Android Auto that you have to do on every startup? Does it not just pop up automagically when you plug in?

It's not every startup, but every time you want to use AA that you have to do something different to bypass sync4.

For example, if I want to place a call or listen to music through AA, instead of tapping the steering wheel button to activate voice commands, you have to do a long press and hope you press it long enough, because if it is just a tap or not a long enough press, the Sync4 infrastructure tries to do it for you, and it does a crappy job. or I have to hit the microphone in the AA window to activate the voice commands there. I wish they had made it that if AA or Apple car play was active, it would just default to that instead of Sync4, or at least give you the option of what your preference would be for which service to use first.

[CRXguy]

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I have and use it daily in my 2021.

Same.

[Darell_n]

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I'm a little shocked at the difference between the calculated mileage and the actual. My last few tanks, the computer told me I was ~11.1-11.2L/100km (driving 24/7 in eco mode). When I filled up, it worked out to ~12.8L/100km. Is that normal, to see that kind of difference? In my GTI, calculated vs actual was only around 0.1-0.2L/100km difference.

That's the Ford kool-aid factor. Realistically on the highway, every modern light duty pickup makes very close to the same mileage. Even my '14 Ram did 9.8L/100k (hand calculated) towing my side-by-side to Creston and back to Cochrane with the 5.7 / 8-speed / 3.92 axle. It's amazing what setting the cruise exactly on the speed limit will do. Obligatory Ford stats: My'16 F-150 5.0 sits above max payload daily and towing a single axle trailer nets around 15L/100km.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

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That's the Ford kool-aid factor. Realistically on the highway, every modern light duty pickup makes very close to the same mileage. Even my '14 Ram did 9.8L/100k (hand calculated) towing my side-by-side to Creston and back to Cochrane with the 5.7 / 8-speed / 3.92 axle. It's amazing what setting the cruise exactly on the speed limit will do.

Really makes me question if it's worth constantly driving in eco mode is even worth it. I keep getting people telling me "Well I got over 1000km on my tank, and it's so nice!", yet I always seem to get max ~900km

[ExtraSlow]

I mean, even at 12.8, you'd get over 1000km per tank....

I don't use Eco very often. I don't do much at all to change fuel economy, and it ends up pretty consistently fine.

[Tik-Tok]

I think a lot of people lie.