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[haggis88]

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Towing a 6k lb, 28' trailer with a 2.7EB wouldn't be a good idea i dont think. I'm still tempted.

When I was renovating my place in Copperfield, I was using my 2.7 Screw with the max tow and heavy payload package to pull a 20ft flat deck with pallets of sod and bricks and it wasn't too bad, you feel it on the hills though

Slightly more topic wise, we're picking up a new family wagon of the Ford truck variety...2013 Expedition Max :O

[ExtraSlow]

2.7L with payload package is a nice combination. Usually special order though, dealerships seem to buy the "soccer mom" version of the 2.7L trucks. Adds 2000lbs to the tow rating. Don't have the payload chart in front of me, but the improvement is significant.

[haggis88]

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2.7L with payload package is a nice combination. Usually special order though, dealerships seem to buy the "soccer mom" version of the 2.7L trucks. Adds 2000lbs to the tow rating. Don't have the payload chart in front of me, but the improvement is significant.

It was worth waiting for tbh, the guy we sold it to said it pulled better than his old "heavy half" 2001 F150

[spikerS]

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It was worth waiting for tbh, the guy we sold it to said it pulled better than his old "heavy half" 2001 F150

Don't want to out you, but everyone here knows me. I saw you this morning didn't I? lol

I am contemplating this deal too. I should call around and see what the order options are as I want the hybrid and 3.5L instead of the 2.7L. Someone able to pass me along to a salesbro that is willing to offer this deal and get me a quote?

[haggis88]

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Don't want to out you, but everyone here knows me. I saw you this morning didn't I? lol

Yeah you did haha, a few on here do know who I am anyway so I'm not worried

[ExtraSlow]

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Don't want to out you, but everyone here knows me. I saw you this morning didn't I? lol

I am contemplating this deal too. I should call around and see what the order options are as I want the hybrid and 3.5L instead of the 2.7L. Someone able to pass me along to a salesbro that is willing to offer this deal and get me a quote?

I"m going to refer to you my salesbro at Cam Clark Airdrie.

[OTown]

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Honestly, our plan was to finance a Taco for the misses, but this deal is hard to pass on, especially for someone already truck shopping. Let the record show I would in no way shape or form buy one of these outside of this cheap lease, lol

As someone who went from a taco to an f150, you get a ton more truck with the f150 for the price. I loved the tacoma but the f150 is better in so many ways, unless you want to go offroading and stuff. But thats another story.

[zechs]

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2.7L with payload package is a nice combination. Usually special order though, dealerships seem to buy the "soccer mom" version of the 2.7L trucks. Adds 2000lbs to the tow rating. Don't have the payload chart in front of me, but the improvement is significant.

302A 2.7 supercab 4x4, 1950lb payload, 9k lbs tow capacity with the hd payload. Option right, supercab is good to 2160lbs for payload.

Northland Ford orders all/most of their supercabs in this specific package, they have lots on hand. Experience was meh.

I've towed 10k lbs with the thing many times. Tows just as good as a dmax at that weight, just the mpg isn't there. Would be much better with LT tires at the sacrifice of mpg.

[Pauly Boy]

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As someone who went from a taco to an f150, you get a ton more truck with the f150 for the price. I loved the tacoma but the f150 is better in so many ways, unless you want to go offroading and stuff. But thats another story.

Took a extended lunch and swung by Dunlop to run numbers, discuss how trading it the wife's car would work on a factory order vehicle and see the Lariat they had on the lot.

Not sure what the older model looked like, but the new 2021 is very comfy and roomy. It is a ton more truck than the Tacos we looked at, you are right. The Taco being the front runner was mainly because smaller truck, price (before covid rates were amazing with loyalty, lol) & it being another Toyota that isn't going to fall apart.

Took home all the quotes & waiting for them to make one up for the in-stock Lariat they had on the lot (Space White, no FX4 but with 3.73) & will decide in the next couple days, but I think it's a go.

[Darkane]

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302A 2.7 supercab 4x4, 1950lb payload, 9k lbs tow capacity with the hd payload. Option right, supercab is good to 2160lbs for payload.

Northland Ford orders all/most of their supercabs in this specific package, they have lots on hand. Experience was meh.

I've towed 10k lbs with the thing many times. Tows just as good as a dmax at that weight, just the mpg isn't there. Would be much better with LT tires at the sacrifice of mpg.

Yes. 2.7 with the HD payload is same spec as my 2015 Sierra 5.3 tow package was.

I sort of wish I got a HD 2.7, but it wasn’t available at the time on the lot.

Even still, the 2.7 will do ~1450 payload and tow 7600.

It’s decent.

[tirebob]

Curious is anyone has any real experience (rather than bias cousins girlfriends dad opinions) with the F150 3.0L Diesel? Doing the kind of mileage I do, with the price of diesel being what it is now and the general longer durability of the engine has me thinking about one.

[killramos]

I’m not particularly convinced a diesel is the correct fuel for our climate.

[tirebob]

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I’m not particularly convinced a diesel is the correct fuel for our climate.

I would agree for more start and stop driving, but I am that guy that every single time I get in my vehicle, it is highway driving at speed for half an hour to an hour minimum before it gets shut off so I am not too worried about that aspect.

[ercchry]

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I would agree for more start and stop driving, but I am that guy that every single time I get in my vehicle, it is highway driving at speed for half an hour to an hour minimum before it gets shut off so I am not too worried about that aspect.

You factoring in the cost of that emissions juice with your diesel running costs? Or price of a delete?

[tirebob]

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You factoring in the cost of that emissions juice with your diesel running costs? Or price of a delete?

Of course... It's not just the cost of diesel and better fuel economy I am looking at, but thinking long term durability as generally diesels will get a lot of extra KM's before wearing out, and being a guy who can easily put 60k a year on his vehicles, that is a consideration. Also, there is no denying that if I ever did decide to sell it rather than run it into the ground, resale on a diesel is generally much higher and and easier sell.

Just some quick number crunching, at 60,000km a year I use approximately 7000L of fuel a year (being a little conservative for estimates sake). If I can save even 3L/100km, that is a bit over 1700L per year so say $1700 a year at a buck a litre, but diesel currently is cheaper than gas so that will be even a bit higher is it stays like that, or if shit goes right sideways and it climbs over the price of gas again here, I am still taking like $1500 a year. Yes the oil change costs are higher and you gotta run the juice a little for sure, but factor in longevity and resale, it can easily turn into a long term overall savings, or at least not a loss. The reality too is I am someone who is really easy on my vehicles and I always do extremely well when it comes to fuel misering so I would expect the real fuel use saving to be even greater than I am listing above, but I am not trying to be pie in the sky dreaming here.

Still not 100% sold on it, but the numbers don't look so bad.

[ExtraSlow]

Not sure if the 3.0L diesel in the half ton has the same reputation for durability and resale as the "big" diesel engines in the heavy duty trucks.

[tirebob]

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Not sure if the 3.0L diesel in the half ton has the same reputation for durability and resale as the "big" diesel engines in the heavy duty trucks.

Not as high but always seems desirable, plus it isn't the factor that saves it... It just adds to it.

edit - resale I am referring to. Durability is a bit of a long term unknown being newer to the game but hey, diesel is diesel and just the overall aspects of how they function seems to support this expected conclusion.

[ExtraSlow]

You are probably the perfect customer for that engine.

[ercchry]

So... no?

Ford DEF seems to sell for ~$80/2.5gal on Amazon... tank on the 3.0L holds 5.4gal and is said to last ~16k kms.... so ~$600/yr eating into your diesel savings

[killramos]

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I would agree for more start and stop driving, but I am that guy that every single time I get in my vehicle, it is highway driving at speed for half an hour to an hour minimum before it gets shut off so I am not too worried about that aspect.

In the winter your truck still won’t be warmed up by the time you arrive. Especially highway driving.