Does Canada need more immigration.

[Seth1968]

I came across this gem of propaganda:

"Why Canada Needs More Immigrants"

http://www.readersdigest.ca/magazine...ts%E2%80%94now

Note how the reader comments rip the whole article to shreds.

[Blackwater]

Jezuz.. How many different colored smarties can you fit in one box..

[Seth1968]

I'm not against immigrants as long as Canada actually needs them, they contribute to society, and they don't try to kill people.

[Idiot Stick]

With all the companies outsourcing its hard enough to find a job.

[Hallowed_point]

Originally posted by Seth1968
I"m not against immigrants as long as Canada actually needs them, they contribute to society, and they don't try to kill people.

If they pay their share of taxes, don't kill people and adapt to the Canadian way of life..sure.

[GTS4tw]

Originally posted by Hallowed_point


If they
adapt to the Canadian way of life

Racist!

[roopi]

Originally posted by Idiot Stick
With all the companies outsourcing its hard enough to find a job.

I thought this comment made no sense until I saw where you are living. I suggest you immigrate to Alberta if you're having a tough time finding work.

[JRSC00LUDE]

Immigration should be tighented and controlled a hell of a lot more than it is now.

Bring the same amount of people, big deal, but start being a hell of a lot more selective - no matter how much the Liberals and Socialist Democrats cry and wring their hands.

[jazzyb]

Its sad and pathetic the state of comments in this thread. Its assumed by posters that immigrants consituate the majority of theft and crime. On the contrary rather, increased immigration has a postive correlation to a drop in crime.

Further, Canada needs immigrants, especially immigrants who are willing to pro-create and give birth to natural Canadian citizens. If this does not happen we will go down the path of Scanadanavian countries. Please don't post base-less opinions.

Here is data supporting the need for immigrants. No one can say that this is "unsubstantiated" the bulk of data is from stats-canada.

In 2011 permanent residents accounted for 0.7% or 248,748 bodies of Canada's population.

Of these 248,748 38,534 entered as spouses, 2740 as children, 14,078 as parents. 156,121 entered Canada on an "Economic basis", in that they were deemed to be able to contribute to society. 27,872 were refugees.

Phillipines accounted for 34,991, China 28,696, India 24,965, USA 8,829, Iran 6840, UK 6550....

289,112 of the toal immigrants are fluent in english.

Source: Stats Canada


http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...ut-immigration

Good article about immigrant statistics. Immigrants are less prone to crime then natural Canadians and generally more educated.

http://www.cifar.ca/arrival-of-the-f...e-a-connection

This article describes how crime in Canada is dropping with greater immigration....... not a causal effect but it is observed.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/11-402-.../imm02-eng.htm

Stats Canada page showing a relationship between crime and immigrants. Immigrants are way less prone to crime.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...rime-rate.html

Excellent article about immigration bolestring Canada's safe record.

So please Rerun, if your going to post something be objective and not subjective and don't go on reason of whim.

[jazzyb]

Originally posted by JRSC00LUDE
Immigration should be tighented and controlled a hell of a lot more than it is now.

Bring the same amount of people, big deal, but start being a hell of a lot more selective - no matter how much the Liberals and Socialist Democrats cry and wring their hands.

What's wrong with the system? Stats Canada supports it be a very strong and positive system.

Why should they change it? I'm confused.

[GTS4tw]

Originally posted by jazzyb
Its sad and pathetic the state of comments in this thread. Its assumed by posters that immigrants consituate the majority of theft and crime. On the contrary rather, increased immigration has a postive correlation to a drop in crime.

Further, Canada needs immigrants, especially immigrants who are willing to pro-create and give birth to natural Canadian citizens. If this does not happen we will go down the path of Scanadanavian countries. Please don't post base-less opinions.

Here is data supporting the need for immigrants. No one can say that this is "unsubstantiated" the bulk of data is from stats-canada.

In 2011 permanent residents accounted for 0.7% or 248,748 bodies of Canada's population.

Of these 248,748 38,534 entered as spouses, 2740 as children, 14,078 as parents. 156,121 entered Canada on an "Economic basis", in that they were deemed to be able to contribute to society. 27,872 were refugees.

Phillipines accounted for 34,991, China 28,696, India 24,965, USA 8,829, Iran (Terrorists) 6840, UK 6550....

289,112 of the toal immigrants are fluent in english.

Source: Stats Canada


http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...ut-immigration

Good article about immigrant statistics. Immigrants are less prone to crime then natural Canadians and generally more educated.

http://www.cifar.ca/arrival-of-the-f...e-a-connection

This article describes how crime in Canada is dropping with greater immigration....... not a causal effect but it is observed.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/11-402-.../imm02-eng.htm

Stats Canada page showing a relationship between crime and immigrants. Immigrants are way less prone to crime.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...rime-rate.html

Excellent article about immigration bolestring Canada's safe record.

So please Rerun, if your going to post something be objective and not subjective and don't go on reason of whim.

When looking at these statistics you should consider the fact that more educated immigrants are coming here and are willing to work for less money, thus causing less jobs for younger people born in Canada. This brings more poverty to the Non-immigrant Canadians and drives the crime rate in that demographic up.

[GTS4tw]

Originally posted by jazzyb


What's wrong with the system? Stats Canada supports it be a very strong and positive system.

Why should they change it? I'm confused.

One thing I would like to see is immigrants required to have knowledge of our basic laws, customs, and language.

[Hallowed_point]

Originally posted by GTS4tw


One thing I would like to see is immigrants required to have knowledge of our basic laws, customs, and language.

^^^^^x1000.

[roopi]

Originally posted by jazzyb
Its sad and pathetic the state of comments in this thread. Its assumed by posters that immigrants consituate the majority of theft and crime.

Phillipines accounted for 34,991, China 28,696, India 24,965, USA 8,829, Iran (Terrorists) 6840, UK 6550....

Not sure if you're being serious here. Calling people sad/pathetic and then inserting the terrorists comment.

[jazzyb]

Originally posted by GTS4tw

When looking at these statistics you should consider the fact that more educated immigrants are coming here and are willing to work for less money, thus causing less jobs for younger people born in Canada. This brings more poverty to the Non-immigrant Canadians and drives the crime rate in that demographic up.

That is absolutley no reason to stop or slow down immigration. Canada is desperate for natural citizens, and if we can gain skilled honest immigrants while doing so it needs to be done. (and this is happening).

Its the non-immigrant demographic that needs to up its game, we cannot boot or stop immigration because our natural citizens are resorting to crime that would be counter-productive.

[jazzyb]

Originally posted by roopi


Not sure if you're being serious here. Calling people sad/pathetic and then inserting the terrorists comment.

Forgive me, It was originally a post in an iranian immigration thread, and I labeled it as such as pun towards the op.

[Seth1968]

From Immigration Watch Canada:

Beliefs.

Immigration Watch Canada believes that Canada should do the following 5 very important things :

(1) Dramatically Reduce Immigration Levels

(2) Be Humane With Genuine Refugees, But Do Not Put Up With Fraud

(3) Recognize Economic Limits To The Number Of Workers We Can Absorb

(4) Recognize Environmental Limits To The Number Of Immigrants We Can Take

(5) Recognize Cultural Limits To The Number Of Immigrants We Can Take

As far as stats go and the political corruption behind immigration:

http://www.immigrationwatchcanada.org/

[DENZILDON]

Originally posted by GTS4tw

When looking at these statistics you should consider the fact that more educated immigrants are coming here and are willing to work for less money, thus causing less jobs for younger people born in Canada. This brings more poverty to the Non-immigrant Canadians and drives the crime rate in that demographic up.

I think you are confusing immigrants vs contract workers. Immigrants would not settle for less money that's for sure.
I'm pretty sure you are talking about contract workers.

[JRSC00LUDE]

Originally posted by jazzyb


What's wrong with the system? Stats Canada supports it be a very strong and positive system.

Why should they change it? I'm confused.

Really? A Government agency speaks highly of a Government agency? SHOCKING!!!!!

As noted, there are far too many people who have no interest in embracing North American principles and values and who do not have even a rudimentary understanding of our laws and language. There are far too many people who are a drain on the economic system of this country as well.

I'm all for immigration, the more the merrier, but I don't think they're doing it right and I don't need to post a bunch of links to support my opinion. And no, my opinion is not baseless just because you do not agree with it and I didn't take the time to find some useless articles to back it up.

Originally posted by jazzyb
That is absolutley no reason to stop or slow down immigration.

I don't think you possess ANY qualifications whatsoever to be able to factually make that statement to be honest. That is as "baseless" as you claim the counter position to be.

(I don't necessarily disagree with you in the larger picture but I don't think there are any verified and true unbiased facts to support the position.)

[Sugarphreak]

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