Tesla Motors

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New compensation deal for elon.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/thenatio...hina-1.4498959

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new compensation deal for elon.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/thenatio...hina-1.4498959

tldr

if he ultimately succeeds in building the automaker into a $650 billion firm as envisioned — bigger than walmart or facebook — he will stand to take home $58 billion in stock, says the release.

Not sure how he can get there but somehow Amazon did it.

[benyl]

Stock is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. With TESLA hemorrhaging money, it could end up being worthless.

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Stock is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. With TESLA hemorrhaging money, it could end up being worthless.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/22/...tesla-model-s/

"A Model S, especially with the performance upgrades, is one of the fastest, best-handling, best-braking sedans that you could buy in the world today. The acceleration times will beat any $350,000 European exotic," he said.

But he said Tesla is "perennially running out of cash" and added, "I don't see anything on the horizon that's gong to fix that, so those of you who are interested in collector cars, may I suggest buying a Tesla Model S while they're still available."

[HiTempguy1]

http://driving.ca/tesla/auto-news/news/314908

Wow, half range in an EV at -5*c. Wonder what it is like at -30*c?

Of course, I'd imagine most who have a tesla have heated parking but still.

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Only poor people drive in cold weather.

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http://driving.ca/tesla/auto-news/news/314908

Wow, half range in an EV at -5*c. Wonder what it is like at -30*c?

Of course, I'd imagine most who have a tesla have heated parking but still.

This is basically proven by all EV owners. Range drops by 1/2 due to extra load on cabin heat and warming the batteries. Same for people in hot climate where some extra cooling is needed.

Some youtuber from Calgary actually left his 5 year old Nissan Leaf out over the Christmas without plugging in it. It depleted 75% just keeping the battery warm in -30c weather out on the street for just short of a week.

Using my commute as example, I would have used 2.4L of premium going to work in winter (12L/100km in city) and that's around $3 today. Same trip would have taken 4kwh in a Model S and double to 8kwh in winter (and that's a heavy foot, hypermilers can probably do it for 25% less), say it cost 12c/kwh (it doesn't), that's just short of $1.

EV mileage cost is still 1/3 of gasoline, even in winter.

Chances are if your owns an EV right now, you probably leave it in garage for charging. And you probably going it warm it up before you unplug it for max range. There is definitely more planning involved but as long as you get back home before battery is depleted, it's not a big deal.

Speaking of Tesla/Elon....

https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/27/1...tagram-running


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Elon Musk is so good at “hey look over here” tactics.

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A true visionary you could say.

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This is basically proven by all EV owners. Range drops by 1/2 due to extra load on cabin heat and warming the batteries. Same for people in hot climate where some extra cooling is needed.

Some youtuber from Calgary actually left his 5 year old Nissan Leaf out over the Christmas without plugging in it. It depleted 75% just keeping the battery warm in -30c weather out on the street for just short of a week.

Using my commute as example, I would have used 2.4L of premium going to work in winter (12L/100km in city) and that's around $3 today. Same trip would have taken 4kwh in a Model S and double to 8kwh in winter (and that's a heavy foot, hypermilers can probably do it for 25% less), say it cost 12c/kwh (it doesn't), that's just short of $1.

EV mileage cost is still 1/3 of gasoline, even in winter.

Chances are if your owns an EV right now, you probably leave it in garage for charging. And you probably going it warm it up before you unplug it for max range. There is definitely more planning involved but as long as you get back home before battery is depleted, it's not a big deal.

Speaking of Tesla/Elon....

https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/27/1...tagram-running


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Just think though of how many EV's are burning up energy just sitting around in our climate, definitely something that needs to be overcome from an emissions and practicality standpoint. Say you live in High River, park n rided for a week at the airport, it turns cold the day after you jetted off, when you landed, would you make it home?

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Just think though of how many EV's are burning up energy just sitting around in our climate, definitely something that needs to be overcome from an emissions and practicality standpoint. Say you live in High River, park n rided for a week at the airport, it turns cold the day after you jetted off, when you landed, would you make it home?

No. EV only works for 80%-90% of driving scenario. Unless there is a plug at the park and ride, week long EV parking probably not a good idea.

And that Leaf example I gave above, it's basically burned 20kwh to keep itself warm for about a week in -20 to -30c. That's about 3kwh/day.

If you use a block heater on ICE, you would have used up around ~7.2kwh per day minimum unless the parking facility cycle the circuits. Of course, if your ICE car can start after a week in -20c without block heater, good for you.

[benyl]

my ICE car doesn't have a block heater, does that count?

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No. EV only works for 80%-90% of driving scenario. Unless there is a plug at the park and ride, week long EV parking probably not a good idea.

And that Leaf example I gave above, it's basically burned 20kwh to keep itself warm for about a week in -20 to -30c. That's about 3kwh/day.

If you use a block heater on ICE, you would have used up around ~7.2kwh per day minimum unless the parking facility cycle the circuits. Of course, if you ICE car can start after a week in -20c without block heater, good for you.

There are ICE cars that can't start at -20C without being plugged in?

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There are ICE cars that can't start at -20C without being plugged in?

https://forums.beyond.ca/threads/406...t=block+heater

YMMV.



Leaf part starts at 9:50. I was wrong, it was out in the cold for 2 weeks, not 1. Enough to drain 10/12 bars, ~20kwh.

[Maxt]

All the GM vans and the sprinters I had, were dead in the water below -20C if not plugged in.. The best vehicles I've had for starting when cold, surprisingly are cummins diesels, cycle the key twice to get the grid heaters hot, and they'll go every time.

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Elon Musk is so good at “hey look over here” tactics.

You do have to admit, the Falcon Heavy launch if going to be pretty fucking spectacular, regardless of your thoughts of Musk and his companies.

So yes, he is very good at the distraction tactics. But I'm ok with that, him being the billionaire and doing whatever the hell he wants

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