Tesla Motors

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Bob Lutz, once a vocal supporter that credited Tesla just called them a losing enterprise... and went on to say that Tesla is "going out of business."

http://www.businessinsider.com/bob-l...rprise-2017-11

That is concerning, because he actually has experience putting a company out of business.

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http://driving.ca/tesla/auto-news/ne...t-teslas-truck

[ianmcc]

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That is concerning, because he actually has experience putting a company out of business.

But he thought he was doing a good job.

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But he thought he was doing a good job.

Even though he helpd chapter 11 gm he is a car guy and did cool stuff like the viper gto and spearheading gms electric cars. He also said that electrification of cars is inevitable.

So you have to consider his opinion. Obviouly hes no tesla, but his opinion holds more water then the haters here, so im serious when i say its concerning.

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http://driving.ca/tesla/auto-news/ne...t-teslas-truck

5000lb Model S vs 100,000lb fully loaded truck, so 20x the weight. But just for fun say you only need 10x the battery.

100kwh Model S, then a truck will need 10 packs.

So if a truck pulls up to a 10 Stall Supercharger and run all 10 cables into those 10 packs in the truck. It's possible.

EDIT: oh snap, I guess I wasn't far off.

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/11/17...1-6-megawatts/



That's one beefer charger. 2MW per truck.

[suntan]

What the headline says: "Loblaws order 25 electric trucks".

What the average fucking idiot sees: "Loblaws entire fleet of trucks to be electric".

What the smart Beyonder sees: "Loblaws order 25 electric trucks, will be lucky to have 2 delivered without having them catch on fire first".

[dirtsniffer]

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Even though he helpd chapter 11 gm he is a car guy and did cool stuff like the viper gto and spearheading gms electric cars. He also said that electrification of cars is inevitable.

So you have to consider his opinion. Obviouly hes no tesla, but his opinion holds more water then the haters here, so im serious when i say its concerning.

You know telsa died around 70 years ago right?

[benyl]

Elon is Tesla reincarnate.

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[dj_patm]

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What the headline says: "Loblaws order 25 electric trucks".

What the average fucking idiot sees: "Loblaws entire fleet of trucks to be electric".

What the smart Beyonder sees: "Loblaws order 25 electric trucks, will be lucky to have 2 delivered without having them catch on fire first".

So the numbers are $200,000 USD in savings over 1.6 million miles.

Considering it's short haul only and the cost of the trucks, it's a PR move. Not a bad one though. People will eat it up in Toronto if they ever actually get the trucks.

[npham]

Model 3 orders have been opened up to the public; before they have sorted out their production issues...I guess they were running low on cash and needed more deposits to float them.

Additionally, r/teslamotors is as bad as r/the_donald. Avoid going there at all costs.

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Model 3 orders have been opened up to the public; before they have sorted out their production issues...I guess they were running low on cash and needed more deposits to float them.

Additionally, r/teslamotors is as bad as r/the_donald. Avoid going there at all costs.

These are for those 500,000 people who reserved to get their order in.

They won't get any more cash than what they already got.

You can always pay them $1000 to get in queue. That has not changed since 3 was originally announced.

But yes, at current rate Tesla is running out of cash in 9 months. That's why they are trying to get reservation $$ from Roadsters and Trucks.

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[killramos]

FCV’s are still electric cars though no? Just lowers the vehicles battery requirements significantly?

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[killramos]

Hydrogen combustion engines I remember when BMW made the 7 series with a hydrogen combustion engine, the 200HP V12

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[zhao]

that is tech i could get behind. natural gas is extremely cheap and plentiful. It also wouldn't upset the balance of big car and big fuel, so I could see car manufacturers and the energy sector getting behind that tech.

[JustinL]

This isn't really new technology. I have a friend working for Bloom Energy and they've been making these for a decade. Their model is a bit different in that they produce electricity in situ from natural gas. They've seem to have had a lot of trouble with the IPO, but the distributed electricity generation idea seems pretty good. Pairing an electric car with a home generating fuel cell seems like a great marriage.