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    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busi...parking-fears/

    Some 150 employees out of a team of about 230 were let go in January at the Las Vegas facility that gets tens of thousands of Model 3s into the hands of U.S. and Canadian buyers, they said, in a sign the company expected the pace of deliveries to significantly slow in the near term.

    The cuts, which have not been previously reported, could fuel investor worries that demand for the Model 3 in the United States has tailed off after a large tax break for consumers expired last year and the car remains too expensive for most consumers.

    Tesla has said its focus this quarter is on supplying cars to customers waiting in China and Europe.

    “There are not enough deliveries,” one of the former employees told Reuters. “You don’t need a team because there are not that many cars coming through.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    You're not looking at that the right way, that's growth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rx7boi View Post
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    Question for you. If it's been volatile so far, why stop now?

    Curious minds want to know.
    I did something a little different for tracking when to buy/sell Tesla stock starting about 2 years ago. I analyzed owners and investor sentiment on forums, reddit, twitter and other social platforms where Tesla fans are active and looked for shifts in their thinking. Surprisingly, there were a lot of early warning signals that could be used to predicted large movement of the price of the stock because bloggers/journalists were using the same data to write negative/positive pieces. TSLA is a very emotional stock, lots of investors move their money in and out of the stock based on emotion, overreactions and not fundamentals.

    With that said, why did I stop in Q4 last year? The sentiment has shifted significantly towards the negative. You have Tesla superfan boys criticizing the company. Bloggers and journalists are writing more negative articles. It became much harder to predict where the needle was going to move. You can have negative news and the stock goes up, positive news where the stock goes down. Many of the movements are coin tosses.
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    https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/blog/350...ow?redirect=no

    Base Tesla is now available. $49k CAD. RWD, 354km range. To cut costs to get to this price, almost all Tesla stores are closing down. If you haven't noticed, the Chinook store closed around 2 weeks ago.

    Autopilot is now split into basic autopilot (adaptive cruise + steer control), while self parking, summon, navigate on AP moves to the full self driving package. Not sure what happens to people that purchased before today where AP package included all this stuff, or the people that bought FSD that was supposed to have even more features.

    No more test drives. Buy online only. Delivery at (guessing) Service Centers.

    Interesting way to cut costs.

    edit - fuck I got tricked. Again. When will I learn? They snuck in fuel savings in that fucking base price again, so it's not $41k. Actual price for base model is $47600 + $1300, so $49k + GST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    edit - fuck I got tricked. Again. When will I learn? They snuck in fuel savings in that fucking base price again, so it's not $41k. Actual price for base model is $47600 + $1300, so $49k + GST.
    That's what everyone who buys them says too! Fuck, I didn't realize how expensive these were!
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    Sounds like the reality of business is starting to catch up with Tesla. I fully support them but they have to balance the sheets if they are going to survive long term.

    On a semi-related note. Did you guys see the Volvo "Tesla Killer" Polestar 2?
    https://www.polestar.com/cars/polestar-2

    400HP, AWD, 450km Range. 45kUSD (65k on first launch).

    If they can deliver those specs I might even buy one! Although the colour choices were done by a colorblind Swede.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    That's what everyone who buys them says too! Fuck, I didn't realize how expensive these were!
    Once the Chinese Telsa factory opens up, we will get $18k clones made by Huawei.

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    But how terrible would a self driving Chinese car be? At least it would always have its high beams on to warn people

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    Quel surprise
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Massive price drops on the S and X too. What was once a $204k car is now $144k (loaded S ludicrous).
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    Interesting. Has anything been turfed to get there?

    That’s a way better “value” proposition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Interesting. Has anything been turfed to get there?

    That’s a way better “value” proposition.
    Nope. Yea, similar price as E63S that’s a decent value prop. That’s a massive hit on margins too. Demand must be toast.

    US pricing slightly different in structure. Roughly $30k drop in price.
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    Damn. Things are turning to shit for Tesla even faster than I expected.

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    You guys have this all wrong. It's proof that they are getting more efficient at building these vehicles (or Transportation Replacement Activity Pods as Elon calls them).
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    Nope. Yea, similar price as E63S that’s a decent value prop. That’s a massive hit on margins too. Demand must be toast.

    US pricing slightly different in structure. Roughly $30k drop in price.
    I would be pissed if I had just dropped 200 on one and then they drop the price by 40% that’s for sure.

    What kind of life cycle do we see for the model S. It may have seen pretty decent updates over time. But when is Model S 2?
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    Would this be a good time to look at a used Model S? Is there such thing as a good used Tesla?

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    I would be pissed if I had just dropped 200 on one and then they drop the price by 40% that’s for sure.
    I'm not that mad actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jlude View Post
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    I'm not that mad actually
    I mean, it probably just increased your TCO by at least 30-40k? Just due to accelerated depreciation.

    That makes me think, think of how many leased model S’s that Tesla will be buying back at prices that are completely underwater...

    That will be another nice hit to cash...
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