Civic Type-R Turbo Mega Thread

[n1zm0]

Originally posted by Type_M
plus I'm hoping it's going to be leather and not some fabric/leather blend that they have right now

For a car of this breed/heritage, I'd think alcantara or suede would be more suitable personally, but still it's Honda we're talking about here.

Originally posted by Type_M
Security ETCH

...we all know security etching is as nonsense as the 'documentation fee'

[88CRX]

The dash is ok, don’t mind the red accents.

The steering wheel and floor mats are bad. I wouldn’t be surprised if that steering wheel didn’t make it to production and could always swap solid black mats in.

Seats also aren't great

[Mar]

Originally posted by n1zm0

...we all know security etching is as nonsense as the 'documentation fee'

When I bought my Civic used in 2005 they convinced me to get the security window etching and I never looked at it until I was taking a photo of it when selling my car 10 years later. I noticed they had etched it a second time so they sold me etching on a car that was already etched. Hilarious, way to go Silverhill Acura! Although we are talking about the same dealership that faxed through my financing application and when it didn't come back, the woman said, "Hmmmm, I think they're closed, they won't look at it until the morning. Oh well, it'll probably go through, here's your keys!"


I saw a Facebook post this morning that Honda will be looking to break the Nurburg Ring record with this car. I'm highly skeptical.

[Type_M]

Originally posted by n1zm0
..we all know security etching is as nonsense as the 'documentation fee'

If you see how Honda "etch" the security number you'll think otherwise lol. I was disappointed when I saw a client's vehicle getting etch'd

[blownz]

Originally posted by Mar

I saw a Facebook post this morning that Honda will be looking to break the Nurburg Ring record with this car. I'm highly skeptical.

I assume that would be for FWD, in which case it could. So good for Honda to finally in 2017 build a FWD car that is faster than a 10 year old Cobalt SS or VW Golf GTI or Focus ST... Maybe in 10 years they will finally come out with an AWD Civic to compete with the best of what is available today lol

[n1zm0]

Originally posted by Mar
When I bought my Civic used in 2005 they convinced me to get the security window etching and I never looked at it until I was taking a photo of it when selling my car 10 years later. I noticed they had etched it a second time so they sold me etching on a car that was already etched.

It's not a scam in its basic functional purpose, as it is a unique # registered and tied to the VIN of the car or you can etch the VIN itself on the windows instead, providing one extra piece of evidence to hopefully return your stolen car. The scam imo however, is just how much the dealerships charge to apply it, $200-$500. When you can go buy a etch kit on Amazon for $20 and maybe an hour of your time max.

Originally posted by Type_M
If you see how Honda "etch" the security number you'll think otherwise lol. I was disappointed when I saw a client's vehicle getting etch'd

Oh I'm not sure about factory window etching, but the dealer applied stuff I know all about, I saw it happen everyday in the detail bay at the Honda subsidiary dealer I worked at for a good number of years, with the blue tags and the bingo dabber. It was usually done just after they installed that cathode marine based 'electronic rust protector'

[Mar]

Originally posted by n1zm0


It's not a scam in its basic functional purpose, as it is a unique # registered and tied to the VIN of the car or you can etch the VIN itself on the windows instead, providing one extra piece of evidence to hopefully return your stolen car. The scam imo however, is just how much the dealerships charge to apply it, $200-$500. When you can go buy a etch kit on Amazon for $20 and maybe an hour of your time max.

It's a scam when the only requirement your vehicle has is to have a unique number etched into it in order to identify it upon theft. If there's already a number in the window, why put on a second one? You can already identify it by the first one.

[n1zm0]

Originally posted by Mar
It's a scam when the only requirement your vehicle has is to have a unique number etched into it in order to identify it upon theft. If there's already a number in the window, why put on a second one? You can already identify it by the first one.

In your particular case yes it definitely was for sure.

[Aleks]

Originally posted by blownz


I assume that would be for FWD, in which case it could. So good for Honda to finally in 2017 build a FWD car that is faster than a 10 year old Cobalt SS or VW Golf GTI or Focus ST... Maybe in 10 years they will finally come out with an AWD Civic to compete with the best of what is available today lol

From what I've seen of Euro tests the previous CTR FWD is the best track car in the class. That includes the STI, Golf R and Focus RS. I'm assuming this new one should be even better. Cars like GTI and Focus ST aren't even close.

[blownz]

^ is there a comparison test of the previous CTR vs the STI, Golf R, and Focus RS? I haven't seen one.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Aleks

From what I've seen of Euro tests the previous CTR FWD is the best track car in the class. That includes the STI, Golf R and Focus RS. I'm assuming this new one should be even better. Cars like GTI and Focus ST aren't even close.

I would prefer a US magazine compare them for better accuracy. Some of those Euro tests you see on the internet with stop watches, etc aren't what I would refer to as benchmark tests. Those optional magnetorheological shocks required to get the top track times are very expensive and push the price of the car above the STI, Golf R, and Focus RS.

Regardless of the revoknuckle suspension there becomes a point where there's diminishing returns with more power and FWD. It's why Ford didn't even bother with FWD for the RS and ideally cars like the GTI, ST, MS3 is about as fast as you would want to make a FWD car before it starts losing its fun appeal. I've driven and owned enough FWD cars to know that spinning the front wheels simply isn't fun at all. The CTR is only really fun around a track and the truth is few of them will ever see the track.

[Aleks]

Originally posted by blownz
^ is there a comparison test of the previous CTR vs the STI, Golf R, and Focus RS? I haven't seen one.

They are mostly online reviews. Like this one where they say Civic is more exciting and fun vs Focus RS in good conditions.

Originally posted by heavyD


I would prefer a US magazine compare them for better accuracy. Some of those Euro tests you see on the internet with stop watches, etc aren't what I would refer to as benchmark tests. Those optional magnetorheological shocks required to get the top track times are very expensive and push the price of the car above the STI, Golf R, and Focus RS.

Regardless of the revoknuckle suspension there becomes a point where there's diminishing returns with more power and FWD. It's why Ford didn't even bother with FWD for the RS and ideally cars like the GTI, ST, MS3 is about as fast as you would want to make a FWD car before it starts losing its fun appeal. I've driven and owned enough FWD cars to know that spinning the front wheels simply isn't fun at all. The CTR is only really fun around a track and the truth is few of them will ever see the track.

Guess we'll have to wait and see when they arrive here.

[Type_M]

Originally posted by n1zm0

Originally posted by Mar

It's a scam when the only requirement your vehicle has is to have a unique number etched into it in order to identify it upon theft. If there's already a number in the window, why put on a second one? You can already identify it by the first one.

In your particular case yes it definitely was for sure.

LOL he got etched twice?

Originally posted by n1zm0
The dealer applied stuff I know all about, I saw it happen everyday in the detail bay at the Honda subsidiary dealer I worked at for a good number of years, with the blue tags and the bingo dabber.

Is there any dealer that actually "etch" a security number instead of using bingo dabbers?

To go back on topic slightly, did anyone here pre ordered the Type R? Or will some of you just wait until the vehicle will physically arrive in the showroom and decided from there?

[88CRX]

Talked with Okotoks Honda the other day and no waiting list yet.

I’m not in a huge rush anyways and I’m certainly not putting money down till specifics are announced (power, cost, interior pics, etc). Further to that I need make some room for another car that I won’t drive and will just collect dust haha.

[88CRX]

Also for all the people complaining its too busy I don’t necessary agree. Will be interesting to see the production R in a color other then black, think it’ll be or looked toned down a little bit.

More like the Sport hatchback with jacked up aero and a wing. Lines are pretty clean actually. And the tail light back window detail looks really cool on the red car below.





Those big honeycomb 'openings' on the rear bumper are pretty bad though.

/fanboy

[Mar]

Originally posted by Type_M
LOL he got etched twice?
[/B]

One on the left, one on the right.

[bart]

Originally posted by eglove
I HATE the honeycomb plastic grill that's everywhere. Nasty

lets start off by saying its not even honeycomb

if it were it would look much better

[Redlined_8000]

New Civic Si will debut at the LA auto show next month (Nov 18th-27th)

Probably have a tiny 1.5T 210hp engine. We will see.

[Deetz]

I'm heading to SEMA in a couple of weeks, should be able to see and find out Honda has planned for the next year in better detail

[Type_M]

Originally posted by Redlined_8000
New Civic Si will debut at the LA auto show next month (Nov 18th-27th)

Probably have a tiny 1.5T 210hp engine. We will see.

Think they'll debut their 1.5T CRV as well?