Well instead of having an active rear diff (evo/gtr) that can apply power to the rear outside wheel in a corner, braking is applied to the front inside wheel to "sort of" achieve the same objective.
That's not torque vectoring in my opinion.
Well instead of having an active rear diff (evo/gtr) that can apply power to the rear outside wheel in a corner, braking is applied to the front inside wheel to "sort of" achieve the same objective.
That's not torque vectoring in my opinion.
Agreed, and I hate it.Originally posted by dimi
That's not torque vectoring in my opinion.
I never thought about this till now. I think you're right, nothing competes with this anymore. But just be happy its not a fucking hybridOriginally posted by SkiBum5.0
Corolla with a wing - the result of no real competition anymore
Ford and VW have been using it on FWD cars and I don't have an issue with them calling it torque vectoring as long as people understand there's the brake method and then the more expensive differential based.Originally posted by dimi
Well instead of having an active rear diff (evo/gtr) that can apply power to the rear outside wheel in a corner, braking is applied to the front inside wheel to "sort of" achieve the same objective.
That's not torque vectoring in my opinion.
If you go back to the 2015 WRX unveiling they talked about how improved the FA20 is over the outgoing EJ257 as a big selling point and the same guy in this 2015 STI unveiling is trying to prop up the "legendary 2.5L, 305Hp boxer engine".
Well the term torque vectoring to me implies that torque is being applied, not braking... I know it works in applications such as the ST, but its not torque vectoring, its traction control as previously mentioned.Originally posted by heavyD
I don't have an issue with them calling it torque vectoring as long as people understand there's the brake method and then the more expensive differential based.
With that said, the wrx is looking to be a pretty decent value proposition.
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I know there are big fans of Subaru out there. But honestly, they haven't made a car I'd truly want since the SVX. THAT was a cool car for the time. Since then the cars they make just look plain gimpy, their interiors suck and the paint quality is the shits. Yes, they offer good performance at a decent price, but so do other manufacturers.
IMO, it would do them good to change their design focus. Heck, Volvo managed to do it with their lineup and they used to be literal boxes.
Feels like it's a lot closer to the old gc8 styling than the recent cars.
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Originally posted by ercchry
people are dumb, kids need to stop playing in the streets, SW soccer moms are the worst kind of people, the end
Torque vectoring in it's simplest terms is the ability to "vary" power to each wheel not "adding" anywhere and when you use the brakes to stroke the inner wheel into a corner you are varying power from one corner to the other. Not sure why you are arguing with me as I didn't didn't determine this as automakers have been calling all sorts of different variations of brake and differential based yaw control as torque vectoring for years.Originally posted by dimi
Well the term torque vectoring to me implies that torque is being applied, not braking... I know it works in applications such as the ST, but its not torque vectoring, its traction control as previously mentioned.
With that said, the wrx is looking to be a pretty decent value proposition.
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so it looks exactly like an evo down to the wheels lolOriginally posted by RickDaTuner
Why such small wheels?
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You can call me crazy but i honestly dont see a resemblance at all.Originally posted by DeleriousZ
Feels like it's a lot closer to the old gc8 styling than the recent cars.
Totally not feeling this car
What a let down.
So far from the concept that was unveiled
No hatch option
Same motor, no change to HP
6M only
Remember when the WRX and STI were going to drop the Impreza name because it was going to get a dedicated platform? lol.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/subaru-...m-their-names/
When has a STi ever been a looker?
This is the status quo.
Yeah, usually takes a year or two of seeing them on the road before I say "You know what? It's growing on me". I'm trying not to be too harsh on the exterior until they've been out for a bit.Originally posted by buh_buh
When has a STi ever been a looker?
This is the status quo.
That said, fuck the interior, fuck the engine, fuck the cost.
Every time Subaru produces a new impreza variation, people bitch and moan about how ugly it is. It always grows on people and it still sells. I think this is the best looking new STI in a while. The interior is also much improved over the outgoing one, which isn't saying that much. That being said, cosmetics seems to be the only thing going for it.
It's a shame they stuck with the old aging engine instead of modifying the new FA20 on the wrx. Also disappointed that they stuck with 300hp but I guess it was just wishful thinking. The STI and EVO has hovered around the 300hp mark for over a decade now and it doesn't look like they plan on changing anytime soon. Even though I like the traditional 6MT, they really need to start offering dual clutch variations like the EVO. There's really not much reason to buy the STI over the WRX at this moment.
Hopefully they'll start to feel abit of pressure now that the German manufacturers are releasing lower priced cars however, I still doubt we'll see an increase in power any time soon.
Subaru is amazing. Its like they never change a damn thing and their cars still keep selling. AWD FTW?!
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Shit, there's only 49 users here, I doubt we'll even break 100
they are like the apple of the automotive worldOriginally posted by max_boost
Subaru is amazing. Its like they never change a damn thing and their cars still keep selling. AWD FTW?!
Without a hatch, this car is dead to me. As for the cosmetic changes, I'd have to see one in person, having seen a photo of a blue version it did look better. At least they kept the hood scoop, happy Yoshi went to the mat over it.
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Really? I would rather it lose the scoop, gain an FMIC so you don't have to deal with all the heat soak.Originally posted by CanmoreOrLess
Without a hatch, this car is dead to me. As for the cosmetic changes, I'd have to see one in person, having seen a photo of a blue version it did look better. At least they kept the hood scoop, happy Yoshi went to the mat over it.
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