Carseats in trucks

[Darell_n]

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Certified car seat tech here. That is not a legal install. You need at minimum 80% surface area contact. Th more he better. Not only is that a finable scenario, the seat will not perform the way it was designed to in the event of a head on collision.

Do you have a link to the 80% contact rule in print somewhere? I've searched in the past and came up with no set number.

[dirtsniffer]

I'm not saying I don't believe you, but could you point me in the direction of the regulations?

Also cfd and cps won't help anymore. But I explained my concern to a cop and he didn't mention that I would be fined for it.

[cycosis]

That’s because cops arnt up to snuff most of the time. When car seat check stops are run, there are techs present doing the inspection. Not the cops. Don’t take advice from anyone other than a tech because well over 90% of seats are used incorrectly. I have the sources for ya on my desk at work and I can post them Monday if I remember.

There’s a delightful average of 3 faults per inspection at $155 per infraction.

The big take away is don’t wing it. You never want to put yourself in a what if position in the event of a collision.

You could pay an installer a $100 a pop or you can come talk to me for free

[ExtraSlow]

Can't speak much to the regulations but as far as common sense goes it makes sense that the seat needs to be in contact with the cushion to transfer forces.

Also, any vehicle manufacturer with two UAS positions will specify not to put a carseat between the positions.

[cycosis]

Yea it’s tricky because there is so much variance between manufacturers regarding which positions can use UAS and which ones can’t. Rule of thumb is the distance between the two points should not exceed 12”. Based on the photo, I’m guessing it does due to the excessive splaying of the connectors.

[dirtsniffer]

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Can't speak much to the regulations but as far as common sense goes it makes sense that the seat needs to be in contact with the cushion to transfer forces.

Also, any vehicle manufacturer with two UAS positions will specify not to put a carseat between the positions.

took a while, but it does say it.

[cycosis]

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My manual makes no such reference

vehicle manuals have a small section on child restraint systems specific to the make and model of vehicle. Should have a diagram identifying your uas points and your top anchor positions for forward facing seats.

[dirtsniffer]

it certainly does, the section on latch is around 40 pages and I had to read it a few times to figure out it says to use only the outboard seats.

I don't think using the belt should be too hard. Just need to resolve the 70% vs 80% coverage. Also read the maxi cosi manual a few times and it's not covered. Found Albertaseatbelts.ca it's a government site. Seems like the big thing to know is that the seat can only move 1" in any direction.

The truck is only going to be casual and camping baby mover. Most time will be in the wife's rouge.

Thanks for the help. Obviously new to this. Little one should be here in the next few weeks.

[cycosis]

End goal is to make it not move at all where it’s connceted. Toss your body weight into it. The whole vehicle should roll back and forth on the suspension, not the car seat shifting side to sside on the upholstery. If you do seatbelt, make sure the seatbelt is locked when you’re all done or you’ve essentially done nothing

[ExtraSlow]

I always found using seatbelt a much harder process than the UAS anchors.

[speedog]

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it certainly does, the section on latch is around 40 pages and I had to read it a few times to figure out it says to use only the outboard seats.

I don't think using the belt should be too hard. Just need to resolve the 70% vs 80% coverage. Also read the maxi cosi manual a few times and it's not covered. Found Albertaseatbelts.ca it's a government site. Seems like the big thing to know is that the seat can only move 1" in any direction.

The truck is only going to be casual and camping baby mover. Most time will be in the wife's rouge.

Thanks for the help. Obviously new to this. Little one should be here in the next few weeks.

Even if your truck is going to be a casual and camping baby mover, the attention to where and how the baby seat is mounted should take as much precidence as it will for your wife's Rouge.

[cycosis]

^This.

There shouldn’t be a more effort/less effort depending on vehicle usage. ANY caregiver going near the safety equipment should have read the manual front to back and then it’s best if both parents explore the the seat and practice the install together. Every caregiver should know every aspect of how the seat works, even if it’s just dad doing the install. Half a f all errors are putting baby into the harness so mom has no excuse. Plus, it’s generally mom and baby out and about. So if she’s pulled over, those tickets are in her name. Avoid the future argument, put in the effort up front, and never have a problem for the next 10 years of car seat usage.

[dirtsniffer]

Ya I guess I wasn't overly clear. There are no issues with the seat in the rogue. But id rather not buy a seat for the truck based on the overhang being 70% vs 80% unless of course it's regulated. Using the seatbelt, while not as easy as latch, I can get behind.

[redline]

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The big take away is don’t wing it. You never want to put yourself in a what if position in the event of a collision.

You could pay an installer a $100 a pop or you can come talk to me for free

Where do you work? I changed our seats to forward facing and I can’t get them installed the way they should imo.