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    Originally posted by redbaron303
    DJ_rice - very interesting perspective. Appreciate it. I've never enjoyed dealing with Hyatt group... I've only had interactions with GO Auto minimally but from a dealer to dealer perspective they seem half decent/easy to deal with.

    The loss of the relationship and long term client is terrible IMO. Its part of the reason for sales people and service advisors and such ... Turning the dealership into a strictly or transactional focused mentality is good for newcomers but alienates long term clients like you said - most of which prefer a more personalised experience.

    In consumer based selling it should be a clientcentric approach with the bottom line kept in good focus. Word of mouth help build the business IMO.

    On a separate side note - between this and the dealer tactic thread - BMW group is introducing a product advisor position to be modelled after the apple genius/specialist - their job will be to educate the client and pass along to the sales person already focused and assessed so they can get on with a test drive, appraisal and purchase of the new car. Its targeted to help the client focus and give someone educating themselves a dealer resource that can help them without the "selling".

    Go Auto as a business model, they are very smart with all their marketing and tactics. They offered this "Go Auto Card" which is like a loyalty card that gives you 10% off parts+labour everytime you come in for service. As well you get 5% back as well. For every $20 you spend, you get 1 point back onto your card to spend. 1 point = $1 when you redeem. As well, your card comes with a referral code, that when if someone buys a new/used vehicle and uses your code, they get $500 off the purchase price. In return, you get $500 referral loaded onto your card as well.

    They also just introduced this giveaway where they gave away A Car A Day Giveaway for 30 days. Basically, if you buy your car that day, your vehicle is entered into a draw, the next day they pull a name out of the ballets, and you win your car. They gave away approx $900K worth of vehicles during this promo but in the end, they probably gained a ton more car sales during this promo as it made people decide to buy their car now vs buying later just to cash in incase they can win.

    Working for Go Auto was actually pretty great company to work for. 1st year, 3 weeks vaca. $500 health spending account. 10% guranteed minimum return investment plan. Only car dealership group that has their own Insurance companies to sell/offer car insurance too in house I believe. One stop shopping. They also puchased a Media/Marketing Company as well. Everything in house is what they like to do. No outside sourcing. Very smart.
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    You know those bored stay at home moms who's entire lives revolve around driving their kids to soccer, various cleaning accessories, and worrying about neighbourhood rapists? The kind of people that watch the View and go "uh huh..." Those unfulfilled people who try to fill the void in their empty lives by writing whiny letters to the editor complaining about shit that no one really cares about?

    Well imagine if instead of writing that letter to the editor, she just posts on a car forum for car enthusiasts. That's Kritafo.

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    @redlynemr2 - I saw it through BMW Canada's twitter account - of course it's not gospel but it sounds like a unique concept either way.

    dj_rice - very interesting insight. I've worked for a few dealer groups and a private dealer and a lot of that is stuff we've worked with, but it sounds like they're really doing well and have the resources to do it.
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    Originally posted by redbaron303
    @redlynemr2 - I saw it through BMW Canada's twitter account - of course it's not gospel but it sounds like a unique concept either way.

    dj_rice - very interesting insight. I've worked for a few dealer groups and a private dealer and a lot of that is stuff we've worked with, but it sounds like they're really doing well and have the resources to do it.
    Yup, they've been threatening us with this for over a year now lol. BMW needs to do their own thing instead of trying to be like Apple.

    DJ_rice, have you seen the sales process? I've heard most of their sales are done via the 4 square selling model. Here is what that model entails:
    http://arthurfontes.hubpages.com/hub...m-To-Sell-Cars

    What's scary is that the price of the car is never shown, nor are any of the adds. This has worked well in Edmonton where the buying process is more aggressive and the culture is more blue collar. Go auto is aggressive on their front end pricing but they hide money in the back end thanks to the 4 square model. I guess the reality is most buyers aren't like beyonders who want tons of information and a deal as close to cost as possible(not trying to offend, I'm the same when I buy a car).
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    Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2


    What's scary is that the price of the car is never shown, nor are any of the adds. This has worked well in Edmonton where the buying process is more aggressive and the culture is more blue collar. Go auto is aggressive on their front end pricing but they hide money in the back end thanks to the 4 square model. I guess the reality is most buyers aren't like beyonders who want tons of information and a deal as close to cost as possible(not trying to offend, I'm the same when I buy a car).

    No, I worked on the Parts Side so never really know how they do things in sales guy.

    BUT now that you mention it, when I first started out as a lot guy, the managers made us rip off all the Factory MSRP sheets on the windows, thats the first thing we were told to do when they came onto the lot.
    Originally posted by GTS Jeff
    You know those bored stay at home moms who's entire lives revolve around driving their kids to soccer, various cleaning accessories, and worrying about neighbourhood rapists? The kind of people that watch the View and go "uh huh..." Those unfulfilled people who try to fill the void in their empty lives by writing whiny letters to the editor complaining about shit that no one really cares about?

    Well imagine if instead of writing that letter to the editor, she just posts on a car forum for car enthusiasts. That's Kritafo.

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    According to AMVIC if you take the window stickers out of the cars or do not properly display OEM pricing it's wrong.
    Same within an ad, apparently it's against policy to have an ad showcasing only a payment - all pricing, terms and conditions have to be there somewhere even in the fine print.

    Some dealers forgo all of this and pay the fine at the end of the year because they're screwing people so well by misinforming them - I disagree with this business model and it's one of the reasons why car lots and their associated get a bad rap.

    --> I don't know if Go Auto or this other group operate like this, but I can think of some dealers that do on the East Side selling domestics... so shady.

    The four square method of sales is interesting too and can be an effective sales tool.
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    Originally posted by redbaron303
    @redlynemr2 - I saw it through BMW Canada's twitter account - of course it's not gospel but it sounds like a unique concept either way.

    dj_rice - very interesting insight. I've worked for a few dealer groups and a private dealer and a lot of that is stuff we've worked with, but it sounds like they're really doing well and have the resources to do it.

    The BMW Genius is something they are trying to bring to North America. I think they are making an effort to have a Genius at every US dealer by the end of the year. As an observation, whatever happens in the US will trickle into Canada at some point.

    Some dealers in large centres (Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal) are testing the Genius model and working out the kinks in the system. It won't be long before the salesperson is merely an order taker and the Genius staff are directing and pushing the sales process forward.

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    Originally posted by yellowGTS



    The BMW Genius is something they are trying to bring to North America. I think they are making an effort to have a Genius at every US dealer by the end of the year. As an observation, whatever happens in the US will trickle into Canada at some point.

    Some dealers in large centres (Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal) are testing the Genius model and working out the kinks in the system. It won't be long before the salesperson is merely an order taker and the Genius staff are directing and pushing the sales process forward.
    Making the dealer pay $40 000/year to have some tech guy/gal stand around boring your customers with features on a vehicle isn't something that many dealers will be receptive too. if you're a half capable genius then who would even want to do that job? You could be a sales consultant and make triple that.
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    Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2


    Making the dealer pay $40 000/year to have some tech guy/gal stand around boring your customers with features on a vehicle isn't something that many dealers will be receptive too. if you're a half capable genius then who would even want to do that job? You could be a sales consultant and make triple that.
    I doubt it would make custy's bored, considering the older crowd with most of the wealth cant even sync their phone to their car. There are a lot of feature 's Im sure sales guys don't bother mentioning to people, having someone at a dealer with the know all of all bmw's technology would be handy forsales guy's wouldnt it ? Customers would see how much more their getting and then realize the value of the features in day to day life. Custys wouldn't feel as much sales pressure and plus they'd pass of prospects wouldn't they... Sounds like a great idea to me.. try it out see if there an increase of units moved ? why not .

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    All I know is if I ever get called a custy, I'll turn around and walk out.
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    Originally posted by SKR
    All I know is if I ever get called a custy, I'll turn around and walk out.
    probably why i'm not a sales guy !



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    Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2


    DJ_rice, have you seen the sales process? I've heard most of their sales are done via the 4 square selling model. Here is what that model entails:
    http://arthurfontes.hubpages.com/hub...m-To-Sell-Cars

    LOL. What a joke. I this what being a successful salesman really boils down to? I thought it was about customer service and building relationships. I guess that's just a utopian pipe dream. It all boils down to closing, even if it means pulling the wool over the customer's eyes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gnoYLIiYbQ

    To get partially back on topic, I had a friend who worked at AutoCan. He had a baby and his boss only gave him that and the next day off. I had another friend who worked at a Nissan dealer that was bought out by GoAuto. They had huge staff turnover right after. Didn't hear good things from him. On the flip side I know another guy who works for GA. He loves it. You can move between dealerships, there seems to be opportunity for advancement, and you actually get some decent benefits and perks (Christmas bonus, parties, prizes for selling well).
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