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    Default Right to bear arms

    The constitution was written in 1789, giving people the right to 'own arms for individual use, and a right to bear these same arms both for personal protection and for use in a militia.'

    Fine & dandy.

    This is what was available in 1789:


    So isn't that what should be allowed then? You can own as many guns from the 1789-era as you like.
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    You're forgetting that the whole point of the right to bear arms being that you are able to protect yourself from hostile individual threatening your life.
    These hostile individuals use modern weapons and the point of the article is to even the playing field between criminals and peaceful citizens.

    War has evolved with technology and if you want to maintain a level of protection you need to adopt the new technology as it evolves.
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    where my popcorn....there its is, and my beer gunna be a gooder forsure

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    Ummm, and what relevance does the US constitution have in Canada?
    Will fuck off, again.

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    lol, do you only drive cars older than the year you got your license?
    dv/dt

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    Uninformed trollbait.

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    That's actually not what it says.

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

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    I'd like the right to have armor without permit, nevermind a gun.

    https://www.solgps.alberta.ca/progra...s/default.aspx

    $10,000 fine or six months in jail for failing to register my cockpiece? BS.

    Next thing you know they are going to start fining kids $10,000 for walking down the street with ice cream (distracted walking)
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    the only way to protect yourself from a gun in teh US of A is to use a gun.

    Now, if we made bullets $5000 a piece and upped the price of black powder... you'd see a significant reduction in gun related violent crimes, once the supplies ran out

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    We've been through this so many times.

    The whole "They didn't know how powerful guns would become" argument is just silly. The spirit of the Amendment is clearly the peoples right to bear arms and protect themselves from other people and a tyrannical government, trying to infringe on their freedom. It would only make sense the understanding was in order to do that the weapons must be reasonably matched.
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    Guns are outdated. I need an armed drone to protect my family and I don't like the government telling me no. When that's outdated I'm building a T1000 to babysit my kids.

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    Originally posted by ZiG-87
    lol, do you only drive cars older than the year you got your license?
    What's wrong with that?? lol

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    ironic how the same people that push for gun rights to protect themselves against a tyrannical government also authorized that same government to spy on their day to day activities and melt their brains from an orbiting space laser.

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    People that push for more gun rights in Canada are some of the most delusional, paranoid, and entitled people out there. I'm all for recreational ownership/enthusiasm and if you live somewhere where you have to hunt to live. Last thing I want to see here is people walking into a Starbucks with a semi-auto rifle just cuz it's allowed. Keep that shit in the states. I'd also like to see a cap on the amount of guns you're allowed to own- there's absolutely no need for a responsible citizen to have 40+ firearms in their homes.

    Most of us here are in our mid 30's, some of us (myself lol) can be real assholes and we've made it this far without firearms lol so no need for more firearms freedom in Canada. You wanna be a gun-tard move South and stay there.

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    Since we've ever had a gun debate on here before...In before ban all guns!

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    Originally posted by heavyfuel
    People that push for more gun rights in Canada are some of the most delusional, paranoid, and entitled people out there.
    Tell that to the thousands of woman that get brutality raped and beaten each year because they have no (legal) viable means to protect themselves.

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    Originally posted by Seth1968


    Tell that to the thousands of woman that get brutality raped and beaten each year because they have no (legal) viable means to protect themselves.
    Please do enlighten us as I wasn't aware that women weren't allowed to own firearms in Canada.

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    Originally posted by Seth1968
    Tell that to the thousands of woman that get brutality raped and beaten each year because they have no (legal) viable means to protect themselves.
    Despite the US having the highest rate of firearms-related homicide in the industrialised world, the relationship between gun culture and violence is poorly understood. A recent study found that treating violence like an infectious disease led to a dramatic fall in shootings and killings.

    Overall, Branas's study found that people who carried guns were 4.5 times as likely to be shot and 4.2 times as likely to get killed compared with unarmed citizens. When the team looked at shootings in which victims had a chance to defend themselves, their odds of getting shot were even higher.
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/...l#.U8Pwl7EdAk0

    Anyways present day military tech is so far advanced if your government really went rogue and decided to properly wage war against it's citizens with scorched earth tactics your pea shooters wouldn't stand a chance. Only reason small arms fire is an issue is because they try to limit civilian casualties. If you don't care about civilian casualties which you would not if you were an "evil" government bent on taking over 'Merica you would just bomb the shit out of everyone via plane/drones/cruise missiles.

    Clearly 'Merican citizens need personal nukes.

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