Macros/Training

[GQBalla]

Starting up a thread on beyond, talk about whatever and to stop hijacking threads

From my experience it doesn't matter how much I work out/cardio if i want to slim down or shed fat it's all diet.

Current Macros right now (trying to cut)

Calories 1820
Carbs 60
Fat 60 (might raise fats)
Protein 260

Stats: 5'8
weight: 175 lbs

Body type: Ecto/Meso
Was always skinny fat, never was lean enough to see a 6 pack. My arms use to be the same size as my wrists. Small bone structure.

I just cut my carbs in half recently, so little less cals also

So far lifts are staying the same, fat is slowly coming down

Current 1RM
Bench 245 lbs
Squat 265 lbs
Dead 345 lbs

Recently been doing yoga, i found it helped out in my squats and deadlifts. I have sciatica and pretty bad hip mobility. Chiro and Yoga has helped for sure. Still trying to increase my squat and deads.

[A790]

You may see a higher fat loss response by lowering protein somewhat (260g is pretty high for 175lb dude) to around 220g and raise fats to 80g. When I go low carb I rely on a higher fat intake to keep me energized.

Also, cheese.

[zipdoa]

Why do you eat so much protein? Do you love foamy piss and stinky farts?

[GQBalla]

Originally posted by A790
You may see a higher fat loss response by lowering protein somewhat (260g is pretty high for 175lb dude) to around 220g and raise fats to 80g. When I go low carb I rely on a higher fat intake to keep me energized.

Also, cheese.

Cheese isn't for me. Yeah i was contemplating on lowering protein intake as well. Ill play with the carbs first and see how my body reacts before i adjust the protein.

Originally posted by zipdoa
Why do you eat so much protein? Do you love foamy piss and stinky farts?

Not sure why actually. My pee isn't actually foamy. Tell you the truth my farts don't stink. I do take digestive enzymes after every meal though. I'm actually not gassy usually unless after a heavy cheat.

thank you guys for the tips. Always looking to improve!

[GQBalla]

I also don't calulate the veggies i intake, usually just boiled or microwaved frozen vegetables.

My fibre intake is quite high

[Darkane]

Originally posted by zipdoa
Why do you eat so much protein? Do you love foamy piss and stinky farts?

Glueconegenesis? <sp>

My buddy has foamy piss because of kidneys. His kidneys are NOT bad from high protein but from some other issues he's had for years.

Normal bodies benefit from higher protein even if he can't use it to build muscle. The digestive process and breaking it down to glucose (see term above) helps during cutting.

[BananaFob]

Does anyone find that they actually have MORE strength while cutting? Or is that just a state of mind kind of thing?

I'm cutting hard right now and my macros are:

Calories 1550
Carbs 90
Fat 75
Protein 130

Stats: 5'7
weight: 155 lbs

Body type: Meso

Trying to get body fat as low enough to get real definition for abs while not losing too much size up top Can't seem to build ANY mass in my calves no matter what lower body I do.

Set a new 1RM on bench just a week ago WHILE cutting...

Current 1RM
Bench 265 lbs
Squat 355 lbs (low bar)
Deadlift 405 lbs

[GQBalla]

Originally posted by BananaFob
Does anyone find that they actually have MORE strength while cutting? Or is that just a state of mind kind of thing?

I'm cutting hard right now and my macros are:

Calories 1550
Carbs 90
Fat 75
Protein 130

Stats: 5'7
weight: 155 lbs

Body type: Meso

Trying to get body fat as low enough to get real definition for abs while not losing too much size up top Can't seem to build ANY mass in my calves no matter what lower body I do.

Set a new 1RM on bench just a week ago WHILE cutting...

Current 1RM
Bench 265 lbs
Squat 355 lbs (low bar)
Deadlift 405 lbs

powerful asian!

mmmm last time i cut drastically i had my macros messed up, i was low carb and low fat yet high protein... i felt i was stronger never tried for 1rms though.

[Milk2%]

Originally posted by BananaFob
Does anyone find that they actually have MORE strength while cutting? Or is that just a state of mind kind of thing?

I'm cutting hard right now and my macros are:

Calories 1550
Carbs 90
Fat 75
Protein 130

Stats: 5'7
weight: 155 lbs

Body type: Meso

Trying to get body fat as low enough to get real definition for abs while not losing too much size up top Can't seem to build ANY mass in my calves no matter what lower body I do.

Set a new 1RM on bench just a week ago WHILE cutting...

Current 1RM
Bench 265 lbs
Squat 355 lbs (low bar)
Deadlift 405 lbs

You need to gain muscle before you get cutting results. Gaining involves eating 3 times your daily intake of calories otherwise your on a very painfully slow slope to gaining. Bulk then cut

On average you burn 700 calories in the gym for each hour, the body uses roughly 1200-1500 a daily for normal functioning. Your most likely wasting muscle

[BananaFob]

Originally posted by Milk2%


You need to gain muscle before you get cutting results. Gaining involves eating 3 times your daily intake of calories otherwise your on a very painfully slow slope to gaining. Bulk then cut

Sorry, I forgot to mention I'm bodybuilding, therefore baseball players out lift me at the gym.

Also, I've heard the complete opposite of what you are suggesting many times, I've subscribed to the "be able to see abs first before bulking" theory.

[A790]

Originally posted by Milk2%


You need to gain muscle before you get cutting results. Gaining involves eating 3 times your daily intake of calories otherwise your on a very painfully slow slope to gaining. Bulk then cut

3x calories, eh? Riiiiiiiiight.

[roll_over]

What are you talking about by 1rm for those who might not know

[Milk2%]

Originally posted by BananaFob


Sorry, I forgot to mention I'm bodybuilding, therefore baseball players out lift me at the gym.

Also, I've heard the complete opposite of what you are suggesting many times, I've subscribed to the &quot;be able to see abs first before bulking&quot; theory.

Funny guy. Funny cause its easier to put muscle on with a higher body fat percentage.

Also aiming for 4000 calories a day sounds about right if you're looking to gain as much as possible.....

Your lifts are not even close to impressive

[BananaFob]

Originally posted by roll_over
What are you talking about by 1rm for those who might not know

One Rep Maximum

[BananaFob]

Originally posted by Milk2%


Funny guy. Funny cause its easier to put muscle on with a higher body fat percentage.

Also aiming for 4000 calories a day sounds about right if you're looking to gain as much as possible.....

Your lifts are not even close to impressive

Lol, in no way did I ever say they were impressive. That being said, I find that the only ones that care about strength numbers are other guys so I'm more than happy with you being unimpressed. Not everyone is training to be or look like a giant Olympic lifter.

[Milk2%]

Originally posted by BananaFob


Lol, in no way did I ever say they were impressive. That being said, I find that the only ones that care about strength numbers are other guys so I'm more than happy with you being unimpressed. Not everyone is training to be or look like a giant Olympic lifter.

Yeah cause Liao Hui and Pyrros Dimas are giant guys right? My guess is they fall under your category of looks?

Edit: lets not forget about Lu Xiaojun

[mazdavirgin]

Originally posted by Milk2%


Yeah cause Liao Hui and Pyrros Dimas are giant guys right? My guess is they fall under your category of looks?

If all you are going to do it trash talk maybe you should post up your stats since you keep thumbing your nose at BananaFob for some reason. His lifts are pretty good considering how light he is and I assume not on gear...

He is clear into the advanced category for most of his lifts at his body weight if you look at strength standards.

[BananaFob]

Originally posted by mazdavirgin


If all you are going to do it trash talk maybe you should post up your stats since you keep thumbing your nose at BananaFob for some reason. His lifts are pretty good considering how light he is and I assume not on gear...

He is clear into the advanced category for most of his lifts at his body weight if you look at strength standards.

Not on gear.

I'm sure his stats are perfectly fine and impressive but he loves to cut other guys down in every fitness thread on beyond. No one really cares how much you can lift is my point.

[Milk2%]

Originally posted by mazdavirgin


If all you are going to do it trash talk maybe you should post up your stats since you keep thumbing your nose at BananaFob for some reason. His lifts are pretty good considering how light he is and I assume not on gear...

He is clear into the advanced category for most of his lifts at his body weight if you look at strength standards.

How did I cut anyone down. I'm merely giving suggestions that can help your training out. His post suggested an increase of size yet he is calorie deficient, so I gave him a legitimate suggestion.
Also my numbers don't mean anything if I listed them or not. Not that I would but I can say my squat is close to 3 times bw. I'm close to 10% body fat as well (also no 1/2 squats here. ATG only)

[BananaFob]

Originally posted by Milk2%


How did I cut anyone down. I'm merely giving suggestions that can help your training out. Your post suggested an increase of size yet you're calorie deficient, so I gave you a legitimate suggestion.
Also my numbers don't mean anything if I listed them or not. Not that I would but I can say my squat is close to 3 times bw. I'm close to 10% body fat as well (also no 1/2 squats here. ATG only)

Where are you reading that I suggested an increase in size? I specifically said I was cutting heavy... When I bulk I'm eating around 3000+ calories a day so I'm not disagreeing with you on bulking.