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    I got this email from a networker.... is it for real?

    Microsoft is planning what could end up being quite a shock for the Windows XP warez world, and what currently looks to be one of the most amazing moves made by Microsoft since Windows Product Activation was introduced.

    Currently, Microsoft is in the works of completely rewriting the algorithm for the way Windows XP Corporate keys are generated, and is rewriting the code for Windows XP to recognize this new algorithm. This new code will be an added 'feature' of Service Pack 1 due out later this year.

    At the present moment, an upgrade to Windows XP SP1 from Windows XP with no SP installation will not give any problems or errors about an invalid CD-Key on a corporate version of Windows XP. This is because the new algorithm feature has been switched off in SP1 upgrades. To get to see this new feature, you would have to slipstream SP1 into the Windows XP installation media and setup Windows. Once you've reached the CD-key, no current Corporate Windows XP key (none of the 75 that we've tried) will work, as they are all invalid. Even if a corporate key is managed to be found, the chances of it working when SP1 final comes out are slim to none, as Microsoft is rumored to 'still be working on the algorithm for SP1 for Corporate customers'.

    So why is Microsoft keeping this a secret? To put it mildly, they are a bit perturbed that warezers have been able to exploit the corporate edition of Windows XP to completely bypass WPA. They are planning to keep it a complete surprise until SP1 final has been released and shut down as many warez users from using Windows XP as possible. They know if it's made widely known what they are planning, nobody will upgrade to SP1 until an appropriate patch has been made.

    And as far as patches go, as far as we can guess right now the only patch that is going to work will be the ever popular "Reset" patch. If you slipstream a corporate version of Windows XP as you're supposed to do, it will upgrade the algorithm. Note that the slipstream patches the DLL files which generate the CD keys, it doesn't replace them. This is why you cannot slipstream a non corporate version of Windows XP and drop the corporate files in and expect the installation to work properly. Windows also checks for the DLL files version numbers and if they don't match, errors will be created during install. It could be possible to find these DLL's, replace the version numbers with those of SP1, and put them back into the installation media, but you'd also have to find a way to replicate the Microsoft signature on the DLL's as well as the CAB files for setup to actually copy the files to the hard drive.

    The first thing that comes to mind when thinking about this is that the current Corporate users of Windows XP are going to have to get a new CD-key reissued for their versions of Windows with SP1. Microsoft has decided that the cost of current corporate customers having to get a new CD-key is less that what they are losing in the market of Windows XP being distributed as a corporate installation amongst warez users. Microsoft is also planning to warn those with corporate editions of Windows XP to not let the CD-keys slip into the mainstream. The EULA is going to be rewritten to fit a new type of 'Corporate release' and it's been rumored that if a customers key is to get into the market, Microsoft may take legal action against those consumers.

    Another rumor that is running rounds at Redmond is that Microsoft may actually include a type of "Phone home" feature in the corporate versions of Windows XP only. This feature would connect to a Microsoft server upon connection and deliver the IP address of the connected computer and what the Installation ID is. Before privacy advocates begin screaming, realize that if Microsoft was to want to do this, they could very easily make provisions in the EULA that they (Microsoft) have included a feature that makes sure the Corporate edition of Windows XP is not installed on more computers than it's contract is made out for, and the computers IP address and the Installation ID may be transmitted to a local Microsoft server thought 128-bit encryption. No more information would be transmitted to the servers, and for more information, see the Microsoft Privacy Statement. It's a possibility, as corporate versions of Windows aren't exactly tailored for use by home and everyday users, so the EULA could very well be expanded to include such a feature.

    As far as activation goes on a legal copy of Windows XP, we slipstreamed our copy and it installed and activated without any problems. The algorithm for normal customers will stay the same apparently. So far, only the corporate version of XP gets the new revamped algorithm feature. It's one less feature I can do without personally.

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    Microsoft licenses work like this. Per Server and Per Seat. It all depends on what type of licencing you have set up. If you work for a company that has a pool of 50 client licences and only one CD it doesnt matter. The 50 client licences are paid for. These versions dont even require a serial number. These are the most common "Warez" versions. Whereas you dload and install with no serial number.

    On the other hand if you are using a version that does require a serial number and 1 or more or 50 more people are using the same version, same serial number. How is Microsoft supposed to know which one is the original?? they dont. Basically Microsoft only goes after the bigger companies with lawsuits and such. For example if you get audited and you have 100 desktops running XP and only 50 licenses, guess who gets sued.

    Honestly if you are a home user with a pirated version they are not going to go after you. Do you know how expensive it would be to have a lawyer for each incident of piracy. I know they're rich, but not that rich.

    In terms of this new concept as stated above, it could be true, but I doubt it. It just sounds like rumors.

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    I have not heard this but SP1 did ban some known corporate keys that have made there way to the public. But I do not plan on running XP till they stop supporting W2k, so i am not totally update on XP.

    Speed_rasir: server connection licenses do not have anything to do with PC OS licenses. They are two totally differenet things.

    You are talking about server connection licenses, this allows you to connect a PC to a server. You still need a license for the OS on the PC and on the server. Plus more licenses for office, exchange etc...

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    Ahhh yes, I got this technical Email in my work Email box about 3 weeks ago. My Corporate Edition no longer works, and I am unable to DL SP1. Windows still works, but no SP1 for me.

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    Originally posted by Speed_RaSiR
    Honestly if you are a home user with a pirated version they are not going to go after you. Do you know how expensive it would be to have a lawyer for each incident of piracy. I know they're rich, but not that rich.
    That's what we'd all like to think, big companies don't care about individual cases.

    A good example is the satellite piracy in the U.S... I've got friends down there with pirated DirecTV boxes. The places they buy from got busted, and they got served a lawsuit because they bought pirated cards to activate their satellite boxes. DirecTV basically hired a law firm to serve each and every person that's purchased these pirate cards with a lawsuit, which they can settle for $3000. You can hire a lawyer for $5000 to fight them, or pay the $3000 fine and never steal from them again (or be fined a lot more next time). That's a lot of revenue there.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft made the move in the future.
    Originally posted by SEANBANERJEE
    I have gone above and beyond what I should rightfully have to do to protect my good name

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    If you do actually update your XP (now) I don't know what it is. It's probably stated in what he copy and pasted above but this happened to my friend.

    He downloaded the new XP update and it froze up his desktop. He had no way of clicking on any of his icons or taskbar. What he had to do was find some way of getting to his Adobe After Effects program and use the AAE browser (not microsoft related) to hitch on the microsoft site and download the new IE. Then he just found the old copy of XP and re installed it.

    I guess its some gimmick to stop you from using pirated software. You should be like me and buy it. hahaha

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    note to self.. dont ever update my XP

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    We wouldn't have this problem if it was open source

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    so now we just have to wait for a hacked sp1...

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    well im using a "burnt" version of win xp professional.... so if i get the SP1 my comp would fuck up??? cuz i need Sp1 to play asheron's call 2 beta!

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