Pet peeves that should be pet peeves

[killramos]

Sorry. You are upset when people drive according to the road conditions?

[Strider]

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This fucking drives me nuts, not just kids songs but any song. The amount of times google plays that is some sort of crazy oddball version of the song I want drives me fucking crazy. It doesn't matter how specific you are, it always plays a weird version. Take it all back 2.0 by Judah and the Lion is its latest hang up, before that any time you asked for the Moana sound track it played the Spanish version, and 2/3 of the time I get live versions of Bruce Springsteen or Bob Dylan songs. When my kids ask for music we always get a foreign version like the Gummy Bears song in korean or something.

I can't decide whether it's Google/Youtube gaming the system and playing a lower royalty version of a song, or if someone found a way to rig play rankings. Either way it's bullshit.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Sorry. You are upset when people drive according to the road conditions?

Rain is the only thing I've seen slow an Alberta driver down. And, they slow down and gaze at the sky with a Jim Gaffigan look on their face while they white-knuckle the steering wheel.
It's amazing.

[zechs]

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Sorry. You are upset when people drive according to the road conditions?

Show me an accident that wouldn't have occurred if it had not been raining. Rain makes no discernable difference.

So yes, driving to the lowest common denominator does indeed irritate me.

[Tik-Tok]

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Rain is the only thing I've seen slow an Alberta driver down. And, they slow down and gaze at the sky with a Jim Gaffigan look on their face while they white-knuckle the steering wheel.
It's amazing.

Yeah, I've seen faster traffic on Derpfoot during a blizzard than this morning with a bit of rain.

There's driving to the conditions, then there's driving because you're scared of the possible conditions.

[ThePenIsMightier]

Berta drivers in the rain be like

[killramos]

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Show me an accident that wouldn't have occurred if it had not been raining. Rain makes no discernable difference.

So yes, driving to the lowest common denominator does indeed irritate me.

Sorry.

Are you for some reason denying that wet roads are more slippery than dry roads? Denying that hydroplaning is a thing? Denying that a wet road has never been a factor in an accident?

That seems like a pretty dumb point of view.

NHTSA attributes that wet roads lead to 70% of weather related crashes in the United States. And 76% of fatalities.

So… there are 860,000 examples for you.

https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/weather/q1_roadimpact.htm

[zechs]

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Sorry.

Are you for some reason denying that wet roads are more slippery than dry roads? Denying that hydroplaning is a thing? Denying that a wet road has never been a factor in an accident?

That seems like a pretty dumb point of view.

NHTSA attributes that wet roads lead to 70% of weather related crashes in the United States. And 76% of fatalities.

So… there are 860,000 examples for you.

https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/weather/q1_roadimpact.htm

A weather related factor is no different than a speed related factor. The accident was likely to happen regardless.

That is my claim, and I'll stick with it.

[zechs]

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Denying that a wet road has never been a factor in an accident?

That seems like a pretty dumb point of view.

A pretty dumb point of view is not assessing the context within how stats were collected. Slamming into another car doesn't matter if there is rain on the road or not when you have less than a second or two of total event time.

Which is why things like highway speed to a stop stats are useless in comparison, you weren't coming to a complete stop to not hit that car. I would also love to know how hydroplaning is determined in these accidents. Hydroplaning a car with adequate tread depth is hard short of bald tires or torrential downpour, so if this is either self reported data OR after the fact analysis, the data is highly "sus" as the kids say.

12.1 million accidents in the USA in 2019.

The IIHS indicates that 45% of car crash deaths happened in rural areas and 53% of fatal crashes occurred with a single-vehicle accident. Leading in vehicle type by crashes are passenger vehicles, with 22,215 occupant fatalities. In 2018, it was also reported that the most fatal crashes occurred during normal weather conditions, and during daylight with 14,147 fatalities (NHTSA).

TL;dr People who care about slowing down in the rain also believed non-N95 masks made a difference to their risk of contracting covid

[killramos]

I’m pretty sure your reasoning abilities are what’s “sus” in this situation.

Doubling down on a dumb statement is just compounding the dumb.

[zechs]

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Doubling down on a dumb statement is just compounding the dumb.

Relying on appeals to authority through data that doesn't support the argument is worse. Good try though.

[Buster]

Wait, are people arguing that rain shouldn't be considered a deterioration of road conditions? That's a position that makes no sense.

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Relying on appeals to authority through data that doesn't support the argument is worse. Good try though.

Are you suggesting that wet roads are as safe as dry roads?

[sabad66]

Welcome back HTG!

[Buster]

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Welcome back HTG!

It does remind me a lot of the "you can't stop as fast with anti lock brakes" argument that sounded equally as dumb.

[sabad66]

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It does remind me a lot of the "you can't stop as fast with anti lock brakes" argument that sounded equally as dumb.

Yep, generally pretty logical views but the odd nonsensical one slips through and he just really digs his heels into it.

It’s ok to be wrong sometimes my dude! Happens to the best of us. Just give up and move on with your day lol.

[ExtraSlow]

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I can't decide whether it's Google/Youtube gaming the system and playing a lower royalty version of a song, or if someone found a way to rig play rankings. Either way it's bullshit.

It's the lower royalty version of the song for sure. 100% for sure it's that.

[killramos]

Classic HTG

[DonJuan]

I believe what Zechs is suggesting is that if the driver does not have time to react to avoid the accident the road condition isn't a factor. (correct me if I'm wrong here) I don't think he is suggesting that weather is not a factor in collisions, just that it isn't the primary cause of the accident.

My 2cents is that all avoidable accidents are when drivers are driving to quickly for their skill and road conditions, and to an extent traffic situation. Skill should dictate how fast you should be driving as to allow for the drivers reaction time to avoid an accident, non ideal conditions should add to level of caution and lower speed. If you're white knuckling it at 100km/h on Deerfoot in wet conditions, perhaps some driver training is in order; or get your car checked out.

Anyway back to pet peeves.

[Buster]

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It’s ok to be wrong sometimes my dude! Happens to the best of us.

Wrong.

Will Smith set it up!

[nismodrifter]

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What the fuck is a cocomelon

I had no idea about this either until year 2 of parenting. Now I know a few of the songs. A few minutes per day is what we allowed. I then realized that shit is demonic. If you watch the characters its like they are in a cult of some sort. Never again.

"Lets make our own construction sight, we have the tools to make it right................."

Now we do a few minutes of garbage truck videos daily. This stuff is great...