Pet peeves that should be pet peeves

[ExtraSlow]

I'm firmly of the opinion that the starting wage for a position where you have people working similar positions already should be very close to the wage of the cheapest person currently doing that position, with the expectation that if performance is adequate, it is nearly identical within 1 year. Companies who would start a new employee at much below that level, are sending a clear message that they are poorly managed. Usually with several older high-cost and low-performance staff that should be shitcanned immediately.

[The_Rural_Juror]

That's communist talk.

[SKR]

Someone's pet peeve should be when SKR starts a career conversation in the wrong thread.

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Someone's pet peeve should be when SKR starts a conversation.

Fixed that for you.

[The_Rural_Juror]

That's negative self-talk. Snap out of it.

[Disoblige]

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I'm firmly of the opinion that the starting wage for a position where you have people working similar positions already should be very close to the wage of the cheapest person currently doing that position, with the expectation that if performance is adequate, it is nearly identical within 1 year. Companies who would start a new employee at much below that level, are sending a clear message that they are poorly managed. Usually with several older high-cost and low-performance staff that should be shitcanned immediately.

My problem isn't companies starting at levels below, but rather too high. Some people are really good at interviews and you don't know they are a dumbass until a month later. Wages should start at the cheapest person doing that position, and only increase based on the career experience or whatever after a probationary period of 60 days or something. If that person is confident in their abilities, it shouldn't be a problem.

[SKR]

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That's negative self-talk. Snap out of it.

That you didn't reply in power point or comic sans makes me wonder how much you mean it.

[ExtraSlow]

There is a lot to improve in the system for sure. Starting with better performance tracking and real pay-for-performance and not for time served.
Underperforming employees should get 0 raises, not even cost of living, if the company doesn't have the balls to fire them.

[Disoblige]

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There is a lot to improve in the system for sure. Starting with better performance tracking and real pay-for-performance and not for time served.
Underperforming employees should get 0 raises, not even cost of living, if the company doesn't have the balls to fire them.

Problem is most companies rely on a system which has a lot of flaws instead of just having good conversations with your manager.
But at the same time, there are some real shitty managers out there who are the reason why performance tracking is not effective. Everyone wants to survive and think their group is doing important shit.

[JRSC00LUDE]

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There is a lot to improve in the system for sure. Starting with better performance tracking and real pay-for-performance and not for time served.
Underperforming employees should get 0 raises, not even cost of living, if the company doesn't have the balls to fire them.

That's why God invented Unions, to deal with tyrant thugs like you.

[Disoblige]

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That's why God invented Unions, to deal with tyrant thugs like you.

It's only 10 am man, aren't you supposed to still be napping?

[killramos]

[ercchry]

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My problem isn't companies starting at levels below, but rather too high. Some people are really good at interviews and you don't know they are a dumbass until a month later. Wages should start at the cheapest person doing that position, and only increase based on the career experience or whatever after a probationary period of 60 days or something. If that person is confident in their abilities, it shouldn't be a problem.

Ha! I’ve heard that one before... if you’re already doing the work and say... spent 6 months up to this point trying to secure the employment they know damn well you’re sticking around, why would they pay you more? Good little cog should be content with just being there.

Last interview I answered with “I just want to be appreciated” ...every role has a pay range, hr and managers know the numbers and what they can offer for additional perks too... came out the gate happy with the package, especially the additional vacation time

[vengie]

^^ My thoughts exactly.

How do I get one of these "cost of living raises"?

[killramos]

I don’t think I have had a “raise” without quitting and getting a new job since? 2014?

[ercchry]

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I don’t think I have had a “raise” without quitting and getting a new job since? 2014?

Government is the answer...

The amount of perfectly rounded salaries to the closest $5k I see in private sector is staggering... meanwhile government is always down to some weird dollar (reflecting a percentage increase)... also backed up with ever increasing amounts YoY on the sunshine list

[killramos]

I’ll stick with my round salary thanks

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Last interview I answered with “I just want to be appreciated”

You need a hug and your diamond ring back. **full body pelvic thrust hug**

[Buster]

I just realized I haven't earned a salary since 2009.

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That's negative self-talk. Snap out of it.

Every single one of @RurrJurr's posts is better when I picture his pug avatar speaking.

[ExtraSlow]

Last three salary negotiations I've done I didn't quibble with the dollars, but got extra days off. I think it blows some HR peoples minds when you accept their offer.

[SKR]

There's always fucking something.

I have my truck booked in to have the rear end looked at tomorrow. I thought I better check if there's a minimum temperature for Nitto Invos. I had a ZL1 way back when, and the stock Goodyears on it were a hard no in the cold. I googled "minimum temperature for nitto invos", and got the results for every tire Nitto makes except Invos. Fine, I'll take "nitto" out. "INVOS" is some kind of a clinical lab system for brains. Pages and pages of brains. There's too much information on the internet and it's muddying the real shit that people want to know. No doctors are googling brain stuff, so just shitcan all of that.

What'll probably end up happening is I'll just yolo it and four wheel slide into the river because the tires are too cold, and the INVOS system will save my life.