Enmax EasyMax - Fixed Vs. Variable

[cyra1ax]

I'm far from a co-gen expert, but AFAIK the power generated via co-gen is generally consumed on site.

[nzwasp]

This guy I was talking to at suncor seemed to think they were the 3rd biggest power producer in Alberta. Guess he didn’t know anything.

Some of Alberta’s largest electricity generators include TransAlta, Heartland Generation, Suncor, ENMAX, and Capital Power.

From https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-an...lberta.html#s1

If suncor is a major power producer are they producing power by means other than cogen?

[cyra1ax]

Like I said, far from a cogen expert lol.

[ThePenIsMightier]

I think you're both right~ish. Massive producer but also massive consumer. At that rate, they don't typically consume all of it.

*Third not expert

[ExtraSlow]

not a NET producer.

[nzwasp]

Well whenever Alberta gets on the EV boom there will need to be more power produced somehow in the province.

[ExtraSlow]

power consumption is going up no matter what, and the cheapest baseload power plants are being shut down. EV is going to be a factor, but it's going up either way.

[zechs]

So, here is what seems to be an awfully difficult question to answer:

Where do I get the absolute cheapest electricty/lowest bill per month?

I've always been floating, seems to work for me, but I've never really ran the numbers.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Well whenever Alberta gets on the EV boom there will need to be more power produced somehow in the province.

Nope. Comes out of holes in wall. Case closed.
Easy.
/Greta.

[pheoxs]

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This guy I was talking to at suncor seemed to think they were the 3rd biggest power producer in Alberta. Guess he didn’t know anything.




From https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-an...lberta.html#s1

If suncor is a major power producer are they producing power by means other than cogen?

Yeah. Suncor has a 60mw wind farm and they also sell their excess electricity back to the grid. Also they have a 400mw wind project in the works

https://www.suncor.com/en-ca/about-u...-power-project

I don't think they are 3rd but they are up there and it'll be more when their coker replacement is done in a couple years

[suntan]

I wonder what their hooker replacements will look like.

[vengie]

Bumping this up.

Plan is up for renewal, what is the current consensus vs fixed or variable?

[phreezee]

I tried fixed for 1 year and not a single month was cheaper than the previous year. Back to variable for me.
Adding attic insulation and the instant hot water heater has decreased my bill significantly this year.
Enmax reports my energy consumption is down 33% for the past 3 months.

[killramos]

Unless you think you know more than Enmax, or would be in serious financial difficulty if your Enmax bill fluctuated unexpectedly.

The answer is always variable.

[pheoxs]

So the spot price of electricity went from 50$/MW to 600$/MW today briefly. Curious how this translates to variable rates for the home? Is that 60 cents a kwh?

I'm assuming they don't calculate it as a live per hour usage like in the US, does it just go into a daily average?

[cyra1ax]

According to what I could find on the UCAHelps and Direct Energy websites, the variable rate is calculated on a monthly basis.

[suntan]

I think only businesses pay the spot rate. OTOH that might have changed too.

[killramos]

Do our meters in Calgary even have the ability to work with TOU pricing?

[suntan]

No idea.

I remember ages ago at the office I think what happened is we were billed for 1 second of electricity use at the highest spot price allowed along with whatever variable rate we were paying at the time. It like doubled or tripled our bill lol.

[pheoxs]

The price keeps getting higher with the heat wave, gotta imagine the next few days are going to be rough for prices.



Mostly just posting as a reminder to see how this affects the bills when they come out.