Enmax EasyMax - Fixed Vs. Variable

[ZenOps]

Fitty bucks showing up for the next six months.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8969064/a...bate-extended/

[Brent.ff]

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Fitty bucks showing up for the next six months.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8969064/a...bate-extended/

Almost one whole fee taken off!

[mr2mike]

Just call it an Enmax gov't kick back.

[benyl]

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Smart EV owners get solar. If anything, these high electricity prices makes the payback on solar that much quicker.

I assume that you are with a provider like ACE that buys at $0.26 in the summer and .08 or something in the winter.

https://www.acenergy.ca/_files/ugd/7...3cc4e510cd.pdf

I have to wait to get solar until my house is 6 months old. That’s September. Which makes it a shitty time to “build credits.”

There is a guy here in Calgary that built a script that changes the rate his Tesla charges based on the production and demand at his house during the day in order to avoid drawing from the grid when there is cloud cover.

I always thought that “Connected” appliances were a gimic, but now understand that it makes it a hell of a lot easier to run you washer/dryer or dishwasher when you are producing during the day. Less important now due to WFH but not everyone is that lucky.

[pheoxs]

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I assume that you are with a provider like ACE that buys at $0.26 in the summer and .08 or something in the winter.

https://www.acenergy.ca/_files/ugd/7...3cc4e510cd.pdf

I have to wait to get solar until my house is 6 months old. That’s September. Which makes it a shitty time to “build credits.”

There is a guy here in Calgary that built a script that changes the rate his Tesla charges based on the production and demand at his house during the day in order to avoid drawing from the grid when there is cloud cover.

I always thought that “Connected” appliances were a gimic, but now understand that it makes it a hell of a lot easier to run you washer/dryer or dishwasher when you are producing during the day. Less important now due to WFH but not everyone is that lucky.

Fire up a grow up for 6 months. Get your average usage way up so you can install a bigger system so you ultimately make more on it in the long run.

also your friend makes no sense in Calgary. We don’t have by the hour metering. Doesn’t matter when you use power here, it’s all the same.

generating 2kwh during the day and consuming 2kwh during the day / 0 at night is no different than generating 2 during the day and consuming 0 during the day / 2 at night

[mo_money2supe]

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I assume that you are with a provider like ACE that buys at $0.26 in the summer and .08 or something in the winter.

https://www.acenergy.ca/_files/ugd/7...3cc4e510cd.pdf

Yessir! There are a whole myriad of these "solar club" companies to choose from: https://ucahelps.alberta.ca/cost-com...turalGasUsage= These are pre-filled with my usage numbers and sorted by highest to lowest price to show the micro-gen credits.

I'm still locked onto an Enmax 3-yr contract that I've since submitted a cancellation for. Still takes 30 days to cancel. I'm currently leaning towards Foothills Energy Co-op as their Admin rates seem to be the lowest. ACE has several hidden fees on top of their high Admin fees, most notably an additional $0.010-$0.015/kWh "eco" fee. All the other micro-gen companies don't have this same fee.

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Fire up a grow up for 6 months. Get your average usage way up so you can install a bigger system so you ultimately make more on it in the long run.

also your friend makes no sense in Calgary. We don’t have by the hour metering. Doesn’t matter when you use power here, it’s all the same.

generating 2kwh during the day and consuming 2kwh during the day / 0 at night is no different than generating 2 during the day and consuming 0 during the day / 2 at night

You're correct on the grow-op thing to up your annual usage needs to install a bigger system. That or crypto mine, which probably yields a higher power (and revenue) output. But you're incorrect about the latter. If you're pulling electricity from solar during the day, you don't have to pay any of the distribution/admin/delivery/BS fees. That in itself is an easy $0.10+/kWh savings, which adds up significantly over just one year. I use anywhere from 1,000-1,800kWh/month with our two Tesla's. That's $100-$180/month in savings alone!

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

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Yessir! There are a whole myriad of these "solar club" companies to choose from: https://ucahelps.alberta.ca/cost-com...turalGasUsage= These are pre-filled with my usage numbers and sorted by highest to lowest price to show the micro-gen credits.

I'm still locked onto an Enmax 3-yr contract that I've since submitted a cancellation for. Still takes 30 days to cancel. I'm currently leaning towards Foothills Energy Co-op as their Admin rates seem to be the lowest. ACE has several hidden fees on top of their high Admin fees, most notably an additional $0.010-$0.015/kWh "eco" fee. All the other micro-gen companies don't have this same fee.



You're correct on the grow-op thing to up your annual usage needs to install a bigger system. That or crypto mine, which probably yields a higher power (and revenue) output. But you're incorrect about the latter. If you're pulling electricity from solar during the day, you don't have to pay any of the distribution/admin/delivery/BS fees. That in itself is an easy $0.10+/kWh savings, which adds up significantly over just one year. I use anywhere from 1,000-1,800kWh/month with our two Tesla's. That's $100-$180/month in savings alone!

Unless you're pulling from the battery at night, and not the grid, in which it doesn't matter.

[mo_money2supe]

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Unless you're pulling from the battery at night, and not the grid, in which it doesn't matter.

There's no battery to pull from. You're using the grid as your storage. What I'm saying is if you're using power as it comes straight from the solar panels, you don't have to pay all the BS fees for that power that's used. If you're pulling additional load beyond what your solar generates from the grid OR you're drawing load from the grid at night/cloudy days, then yes, you still have to pay the BS fees. That's what I was saying a few posts back. If you change your usage patterns by using all the heavy draw items when solar is generating, you can pay off the panels that much quicker 'cause you save on all the BS fees.

[ExtraSlow]

Ah, here a lot of the fees are not per kw, but per house. So in that setup there's no fee benefit.

[mo_money2supe]

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Ah, here a lot of the fees are not per kw, but per house. So in that setup there's no fee benefit.

Yeah, you're right. Not ALL of the fees are fixed. It's only the variable fees based on usage that one can save money on. Still adds up sizeably over a year though.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

Gotcha. I was assuming some sort of powerwall setup, where it would only feed back into the grid when the batteries are topped off.

[mr2mike]

July 2022

[killramos]

9.29 is probably still a bargain

[ExtraSlow]

17c in NE US

[ZenOps]

17.341¢ this month.

https://www.enmax.com/home/rro/regulated-rates

Great holy jeebus, and putin hasn't even fully cut off natgas yet.

[pheoxs]

Fixed is life but dammit it's going to be scary in 2 years when my fixed rate expired and gotta renew. Guess that'll be the push for solar.

Some regret not taking the 5 year fixed instead of 3 years at the time.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

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Fixed is life but dammit it's going to be scary in 2 years when my fixed rate expired and gotta renew. Guess that'll be the push for solar.

Some regret not taking the 5 year fixed instead of 3 years at the time.

Same, picked the three year fixed in September 2021, wish I’d gone five.

[Ekliptix]

^ditto. I'm fixed at $.0669/kwh and $4.09/GJ, ends Aug 2024. A lot can happen with pricing over 3 years, but I can't imagine it getting cheaper.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

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^ditto. I'm fixed at $.0669/kwh and $4.09/GJ, ends Aug 2024. A lot can happen with pricing over 3 years, but I can't imagine it getting cheaper.

I'm at 5yr fixed, $0.0599/kWh and $4.09/GJ, that expires May 2024, and I'm terrified of where prices will be at.

[bjstare]

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I'm at 5yr fixed, $0.0599/kWh and $4.09/GJ, that expires May 2024, and I'm terrified of where prices will be at.

Same, but mine's July 2024. I'll just enjoy every month of low prices between now and then.