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    Can't find it on their website, but I assume that the electricity rates and natural gas rates renew independently and both don't just default to the earliest renewal? It looks like I have 3 year electric and 1 year gas (which is up for renewal in September).
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    Interesting read. Not that it helped me decide between floating or fixed but I'm leaning to a fixed term with ATCO because the world is a mess at the moment.

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    https://www.enmax.com/home/rro/regulated-rates

    14.777 cents per kwh. But noone used much because of stupendously cool summer so far.
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    Enjoy charging your EV's.

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    Enjoy charging your EV's.
    Still cheaper than gasoline at this point.
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    Smart EV owners get solar. If anything, these high electricity prices makes the payback on solar that much quicker.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mo_money2supe View Post
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    Smart EV owners get solar. If anything, these high electricity prices makes the payback on solar that much quicker.
    I've been seeing "zero percent financing" ads for solar panel installs. Don't know the details, but this definitely is the route that makes sense.

    I'm assuming a tesla can't be used as a powerwall style battery backup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mo_money2supe View Post
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    Smart EV owners get solar. If anything, these high electricity prices makes the payback on solar that much quicker.
    It helps but you still get fucked over by the delivery and other BS fees. Boss has a large solar array at his place and even when they are close to even in generation and usage they get fucked by the BS fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zechs View Post
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    I've been seeing "zero percent financing" ads for solar panel installs. Don't know the details, but this definitely is the route that makes sense.

    I'm assuming a tesla can't be used as a powerwall style battery backup?
    If they claim a zero cost zero percent finance rate then they’re hiding the cost somewhere else

    Personally if I had 30k to spend on solar I would instead invest it especially if a recession hits

    In 20 years you’ll be further ahead with the investment

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    Worthwhile listening to the "arc energy ideas podcast" from June 28. Interesting discussion on this topic.

    I think home solar WILL become a big part of the energy mix in Alberta. I predict there will be regulatory changes that make it more attractive, such as guaranteed feed-in rates, lower non-energy costs, variable costs for base or peak use etc.

    Right now you need to have a motivation above finances to really take the leap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Worthwhile listening to the "arc energy ideas podcast" from June 28. Interesting discussion on this topic.

    I think home solar WILL become a big part of the energy mix in Alberta. I predict there will be regulatory changes that make it more attractive, such as guaranteed feed-in rates, lower non-energy costs, variable costs for base or peak use etc.

    Right now you need to have a motivation above finances to really take the leap.
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    It certainly doesn’t seem like a technological bell curve I want to be ahead of.

    If people are so sure that prices will come down and grid power will go up, I see no reason to get ahead of that while current energy costs essentially nothing.
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    I want solar, but I sure don't want to pay for it right now.
    AFAIK you can't use Tesla as a powerwall battery, but you CAN use an F-150 lightning for that.
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    If they claim a zero cost zero percent finance rate then they’re hiding the cost somewhere else

    Personally if I had 30k to spend on solar I would instead invest it especially if a recession hits

    In 20 years you’ll be further ahead with the investment
    You still in your home in 20yrs?
    Most don't even go for 25 yr shingles, let alone solar with a 2 decade payout.

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    Panels won't last 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    It certainly doesn’t seem like a technological bell curve I want to be ahead of.

    If people are so sure that prices will come down and grid power will go up, I see no reason to get ahead of that while current energy costs essentially nothing.
    That's fair, without having your house off the electrical grid, you haven't solved the real problem of obscene utility infrastructure fees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    Panels won't last 20 years.
    When i looked into it, they came with a 25 year warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zechs View Post
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    I've been seeing "zero percent financing" ads for solar panel installs. Don't know the details, but this definitely is the route that makes sense.

    I'm assuming a tesla can't be used as a powerwall style battery backup?
    I've seen that ad before too. They craftily word it but it's not truthful. That said, on top of the Canada Greener Homes Grant ($5k grant for solar), the feds are now truly offering a $40k interest free loan option. The only caveat is it is currently only available to those who have already been approved for the grant (where I'm at right now). The next round of openings for the interest free loan to the rest of those who have not yet applied/been approved for the grant is sometime next year. I have it in an email from the gov't somewhere if you're interested in the details.

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    It helps but you still get fucked over by the delivery and other BS fees. Boss has a large solar array at his place and even when they are close to even in generation and usage they get fucked by the BS fees.
    That's why you use your high energy sources when the sun's generating power. It's a lifestyle change for sure but the idea is to set your dryer/dishwasher/oven/stove/EV charging/etc to operate when there's daylight. That way, you're drawing power directly off solar and not having to pay the admin/delivery/other BS fees.

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    If they claim a zero cost zero percent finance rate then they’re hiding the cost somewhere else

    Personally if I had 30k to spend on solar I would instead invest it especially if a recession hits

    In 20 years you’ll be further ahead with the investment
    See my comment above. FYI, my payback period (without even changing my lifestyle per the above note) is 11 yrs. With lifestyle change, payback for my system is calc'd at 6-7 yrs. Once paid back, it's just all earnings. So maybe you'll be further ahead with your own investments, but this is guaranteed earnings after the short payback period.

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    I want solar, but I sure don't want to pay for it right now.
    AFAIK you can't use Tesla as a powerwall battery, but you CAN use an F-150 lightning for that.
    Don't need battery storage. Alberta amongst many other provinces allows for micro-generation buy-back. Basically, any excess energy you make gets SOLD back to the grid. You're essentially using the grid as the battery. That's how the payback period is so quick. The only benefit with a battery storage (Tesla powerwall or F-150) is backup power if the grid ever goes down.

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    You still in your home in 20yrs?
    Most don't even go for 25 yr shingles, let alone solar with a 2 decade payout.
    Payback is at best 6-7 yrs; worst 11 yrs. See my comment above. And yes, I'll be in my house for at least the next 10 yrs. Kids are still young and have zero plans to move before we're empty nesters.

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    Panels won't last 20 years.
    All the major solar panel brands come with min 25-yr PERFORMANCE warranty maintaining at least 70% production, which covers hail damage. Most suppliers/installers provide a min. 10 yr INSTALL warranty, which covers all labour. Don't know what kind of FUD you've been subjected to; read the details yourself before you get further lied to.




    Full disclosure, yes, I have solar installed at my house. It's a 33 panel system providing 13.4kW of power. It will offset 96% of my annual electricity usage. It's not yet fully operating. The ridiculous amount of rain delayed the install process, but final inspections are next Mon, July 11 so we're almost there. I'll still be tied to the grid obviously and will still have to pay for electricity during the winter months, but for 6+ months of the year, the solar should generate more electricity than I will be need, thus paying me a net positive amount due to the micro-gen credits, which is what is used to pay back the upfront costs. I honestly can't wait to stop paying with my left nut each month; I'm currently (pre-solar) paying $300+ just in electricity each month - and that's on a FIXED rate of some $0.059/kWh too. Having two Tesla's (Teslae?) obviously adds to it, which is still significantly cheaper than gas for two cars in a month. Guess I'll report back in 6-7 yrs when my solar system is fully paid off and I start actually making money from the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    Panels won't last 20 years.
    Yes they will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vengie View Post
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    Yes they will.
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