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    In hindsight, the double points for the last three races wouldn't have made a difference anyways, because its been a Merc 1-2 equally for both drivers, so we'd still be in the position we are in now. 17 point lead for Hamilton with one race where double points could make a difference. Yes, we wouldn't have foreseen Ham/Ros splitting 1-2 equally when the rule was decided on, but regardless, we'd be in the exact same position we are now.

    There has only been 1 race all year where a Merc wasn't in the Top 2 places, and even then they were 3rd.. with Lewis (in Hungary). I think it would take a wackjob to bet against Lewis winning the WDC.

    I'm looking at it this way... Nico hasn't won back to back races all season (or his F1 career for that matter). He won in Brazil, he isn't winning in Abu Dhabi. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

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    Originally posted by Xtrema


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    One doesn't simply "get good" at SAP implementations.

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    Back to the regular programming

    Rosberg says Hamilton has to play fair. Are you serious Nico???

    http://en.espnf1.com/abudhabi/motors...ry/184675.html

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    If I were Lewis, I'd just sit back and coast to 2nd. He'll easily have a double digit gap to 3rd and Nico can't ram him from 1st.

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    Originally posted by phreezee
    If I were Lewis, I'd just sit back and coast to 2nd. He'll easily have a double digit gap to 3rd and Nico can't ram him from 1st.
    That sounds logical but Lewis will not just sit and take the second place. He is a racer at heart.

    Some thing crazy is going to happen in Abu-Double

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    I think Lewis is intelligent enough to bide his time behind Rosberg, even if he wants to win.

    If I were Lewis, I would try to maintain the balance of "I know I can cruise behind in 2nd but on a fresh set of tires...I'll push and if you shit then I will be there to snatch the win away"

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    Lewis can afford to tangle with Nico as long as if things go wrong, they both get taken out. Lewis could just take a page out of his idol's book and lock it up before T1.

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    Originally posted by diamondedge
    I think Lewis is intelligent enough to bide his time behind Rosberg, even if he wants to win.

    If I were Lewis, I would try to maintain the balance of "I know I can cruise behind in 2nd but on a fresh set of tires...I'll push and if you shit then I will be there to snatch the win away"
    During an interview before Brazil he mentioned that he'll be smarter about this but at the same he would still be chasing for the win.
    He mentioned that he learned his lesson from 2007 when he tried too hard and it ended up costing him the championship.

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    Originally posted by JustinL
    Lewis can afford to tangle with Nico as long as if things go wrong, they both get taken out. Lewis could just take a page out of his idol's book and lock it up before T1.
    I know I am sure that is what is playing in Nico's mind as well.

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    Lewis could just end it in the first corner and take out the whole reliability question. Prost, Senna, Schumacher all did it . I guess that's what Nico meant in the press conference when he said Lewis can make sure he drives clean. Quite an awkward press conference with Seb, Fernando and Jenson in the front row and Nico and Lewis separated by Hulkenberg.

    Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
    1 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:43.476 32
    2 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:43.609 0.133 31
    3 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:45.184 1.708 22
    4 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:45.334 1.858 30
    5 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:45.361 1.885 23
    6 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Renault 1:45.718 2.242 17
    7 26 Daniil Kvyat STR-Renault 1:45.835 2.359 32
    8 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1:45.913 2.437 8
    9 11 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1:45.983 2.507 23
    10 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:46.030 2.554 24
    11 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1:46.049 2.573 23
    12 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:46.131 2.655 23
    13 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1:46.549 3.073 7
    14 21 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:46.556 3.080 28
    15 13 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault 1:46.711 3.235 31
    16 31 Esteban Ocon Lotus-Renault 1:47.066 3.590 29
    17 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:47.235 3.759 8
    18 10 Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault 1:47.971 4.495 24
    19 37 Adderly Fong Sauber-Ferrari 1:48.269 4.793 25
    20 46 Will Stevens Caterham-Renault 1:50.684 7.208 14


    Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
    1 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:42.113 35
    2 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:42.196 0.083 37
    3 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1:42.895 0.782 37
    4 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:42.959 0.846 33
    5 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1:43.070 0.957 34
    6 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:43.183 1.070 32
    7 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:43.489 1.376 33
    8 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:43.503 1.390 23
    9 26 Daniil Kvyat STR-Renault 1:43.546 1.433 38
    10 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1:43.558 1.445 34
    11 11 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1:43.746 1.633 37
    12 13 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault 1:44.005 1.892 38
    13 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:44.068 1.955 32
    14 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Renault 1:44.157 2.044 39
    15 21 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:44.316 2.203 38
    16 99 Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1:44.763 2.650 37
    17 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:44.986 2.873 35
    18 10 Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault 1:45.505 3.392 38
    19 46 Will Stevens Caterham-Renault 1:47.057 4.944 34
    20 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari No time 2



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    Originally posted by JustinL
    Lewis can afford to tangle with Nico as long as if things go wrong, they both get taken out. Lewis could just take a page out of his idol's book and lock it up before T1.
    In today's F1, if Lewis did that he would throw his contract talks out the window with Mercedes. No way Merc. would put up with that.


    Honestly... I just want Hamilton to put it on Pole (looking good so far), and then drive away from Nico to a 10-15s gap and win the race.

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    Originally posted by DJ Lazy


    In today's F1, if Lewis did that he would throw his contract talks out the window with Mercedes. No way Merc. would put up with that.


    Honestly... I just want Hamilton to put it on Pole (looking good so far), and then drive away from Nico to a 10-15s gap and win the race.
    Merc put up with Nico and a Slap on the wrist and rewarded him with a contract extension.
    Don't tell me Merc will throw the cotract talks out the window. Even if that happens Lewis has other options.

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    Originally posted by ganesh


    Merc put up with Nico and a Slap on the wrist and rewarded him with a contract extension.
    Don't tell me Merc will throw the cotract talks out the window. Even if that happens Lewis has other options.
    Yea mid season... We still don't know what the punishment was and never will. I will bet it hurt in other ways.

    Who knows the agreement could be to give Hamilton the championship

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    Originally posted by ganesh


    Merc put up with Nico and a Slap on the wrist and rewarded him with a contract extension.
    Don't tell me Merc will throw the cotract talks out the window. Even if that happens Lewis has other options.
    Comparing Prost, Senna, Schumi-esque blatent title contender take outs to the end plate of a wing you can't even see clipping a tire are two totally different things. I may not like Rosberg, but I'm not dumb enough to believe he did that on purpose.

    Senna straight up took Prost out and had no intentions of making it around the first corner. Regardless of his "go for a gap" statements, he knew what he was doing, and to be honest the relationship between him and Prost was alot chillier than that of Ham/Ros.

    Same with Schumi on Damon Hill (??)... Blatantly took him out..


    Other options? Like what? Ferrari is Full, Williams is Full, Red Bull is Full, Mclaren, who freaking knows, but likely Full... You think he's prepared to walk away from the most dominant car in F1 right now? A car that will likely hand him his 2nd WDC, and possibly 3rd and 4th..

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    Originally posted by DJ Lazy


    Comparing Prost, Senna, Schumi-esque blatent title contender take outs to the end plate of a wing you can't even see clipping a tire are two totally different things. I may not like Rosberg, but I'm not dumb enough to believe he did that on purpose.

    Senna straight up took Prost out and had no intentions of making it around the first corner. Regardless of his "go for a gap" statements, he knew what he was doing, and to be honest the relationship between him and Prost was alot chillier than that of Ham/Ros.

    Same with Schumi on Damon Hill (??)... Blatantly took him out..


    Other options? Like what? Ferrari is Full, Williams is Full, Red Bull is Full, Mclaren, who freaking knows, but likely Full... You think he's prepared to walk away from the most dominant car in F1 right now? A car that will likely hand him his 2nd WDC, and possibly 3rd and 4th..
    Nico admitted that he did that on purpose to Prove a point.
    Other options after 2015....Mclaren has made it no secret that they want him back. Do you think that there will be no interest form Ferrari and Redbull if he becomes avaialble? I agree Merc is dominant right now but we all know how this circle works and don't bet against the masters of the Turbo - Honda

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    Originally posted by ganesh
    don't bet against the masters of the Turbo - Honda
    Honda's being turbo experts in the 80's F1 era really doesn't translate to today's engines. Even if it did, that's not where Merc is winning. The Ferrari/Renault/Mercedes turbo engines are all making similar power. It's the energy recovery, storage, and usage system where Mercedes has the huge advantage. That's where 99% of the power gap comes from.
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    Of less concern, but still somewhat exciting is the battle for 4th in the WDC with 3 points separating Alonso, Vettel and Bottas. I'd love to see Vettel pushed to 6th.

    4 Sebastian Vettel German Red Bull Racing-Renault 159
    5 Fernando Alonso Spanish Ferrari 157
    6 Valtteri Bottas Finnish Williams-Mercedes 156

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