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    Combo deal - take team and arena! 2 for 1!
    Murray Edward's favourite word.

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    What that a fat joke, or a cheap joke?
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    My YouTube recommendations have turned a little farther right, but this is still pretty funny.


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    Truly Amazing
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Arena deal just died tonight. Good riddance

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2020 View Post
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    Arena deal just died tonight. Good riddance
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    Came back to ogle 2Legit2Quit wife's buns...
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Sounds like Murray Edwards is threatening to walk from the deal over $16M in additional costs.

    It’s interesting that the city was prepared to cover $6.4M of the higher costs (40%), but wasn’t willing to cover any of the $4M in climate mitigation costs.

    I really hope the deal is off, but I think it’s just the Flames owners bluffing. They already negotiated a killer deal, I doubt they would walk over such small $.

    https://flamesnation.ca/2021/12/21/c...al-over-costs/

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    2-3 years of no revenue do you really think the Flames want to build an arena right now?

    They are laughing their way to the bank that Gondek has given them an out.

    Bet The city ends up footing 100% of the costs out of all this. Flames will buy it from them at the end for 50 cents on the dollar and take no risk in construction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    2-3 years of no revenue do you really think the Flames want to build an arena right now?

    They are laughing their way to the bank that Gondek has given them an out.
    Not to mention flames were on the hook for cost overruns. Construction costs have gone up 40% in which flames were 100% liable for.

    I dunno what the shelf life of the saddledome is, it’s already past it’s expiry date for modern concerts, but if this deal is gone, we’re in a world of hurt for entertainment in this city.
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    I feel like Gondek tweeted this out first ASAP to make the CSEC look like the assholes. I'd like to hear the Flames' side on this before making judgment.

    I mean, what the fuck are "climate mitigation costs"? For all we know, it could be someone on city council's brilliant idea to install solar panels, plant a bunch of trees, and add bike lanes that were never part of the original plans and they're expecting the CSEC to pay for it. If that's the case, then yeah I'd tell city council to go fuck themselves. But on the other hand it could be something completely reasonable and Murray Edwards is being a cheap ass.

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    It's highly possible that both side feel like they have a bad deal. Hell they could both be correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D'z Nutz View Post
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    I feel like Gondek tweeted this out first ASAP to make the CSEC look like the assholes. I'd like to hear the Flames' side on this before making judgment.
    This 100%.

    And lmao at "climate mitigation"... Fuck off Gondek.

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    That's great. That's just fucking great man!

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    I bet calling out Mr. Edwards helped the situation.

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    I've heard he has virtually no ego and doesn't mind letting others tell him what he should do.
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    Not to mention flames were on the hook for cost overruns. Construction costs have gone up 40% in which flames were 100% liable for.

    I dunno what the shelf life of the saddledome is, it’s already past it’s expiry date for modern concerts, but if this deal is gone, we’re in a world of hurt for entertainment in this city.
    This. I bet the deal is done

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    2-3 years of no revenue do you really think the Flames want to build an arena right now?

    They are laughing their way to the bank that Gondek has given them an out.

    Bet The city ends up footing 100% of the costs out of all this. Flames will buy it from them at the end for 50 cents on the dollar and take no risk in construction.
    This too

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    $4m for solar panels and $12m for gold plated sidewalks (that the city requests) are not cost overruns. That’s scope creep.

    Flames should sue the city for moving the goalposts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Bet The city ends up footing 100% of the costs out of all this. Flames will buy it from them at the end for 50 cents on the dollar and take no risk in construction.
    Dammit. That sounds so realistic that it will probably happen. The city seems to be so bent on building this that they probably would take it on 100%.

    I still feel the lion’s share of the costs should be borne by those attending the events and those that are profiting from holding the events. Not sure why the city is so eager to throw taxpayer money at it.

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    without actual knowledge, i suspect climate mitigation is more like flood proofing to a higher flood elevation than the saddledome currently is, etc.. just my guess

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