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    Default Israeli government to pay African refugees $3,500 to leave

    Now if Canada was to do something like this to a specific group of people what would people think?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10253318.html


    The Israeli government will pay $3,500 grants to African refugees to encourage them to leave the country, it has said.



    The country’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the move was designed to “protect the Jewish and democratic character” of the Middle Eastern state.

    The country’s coalition cabinet voted unanimously last weekend to approve the plan, drawn up by the country’s new Interior Minister Gideon Sa’ar and supported by Mr Netanyahu.

    “We are determined to remove the tens of thousands of infiltrators who are here, after we lowered to zero the number of work-seeking infiltrators who have entered Israel’s cities,” Mr Netanyahu said at the cabinet meeting, according to a government release.

    Israel already pays grants of $1,500 to migrants who agree to leave but the proposal would see the figure raised to $3,500.

    Other measures approved as part of a £73m package include the establishment of a migrant detention centre in the Negev desert.

    Extra funding will also be provided to police in south Tel Aviv where populations of African migrants live.

    Migrants who do not take up the repatriation offer will be subject to detention in the new facility.

    Last year a report by Human Rights Watch said the repatriation was not as voluntary as its seemed and amounted to coercion.

    “Destroying people's hope of finding protection by forcing them into a corner and then claiming they are voluntarily leaving Israel is transparently abusive,” said report author Gerry Simpson.

    “Eritreans and Sudanese in Israel are left with the choice of living in fear of spending the rest of their days locked up in desert detention centres or of risking detention and abuse back home.”

    In 2012 the US government criticised Israel’s treatment of African asylum seekers on the basis that they were denied refugee status and basic healthcare.

    The state department’s annual report also criticised inflammatory language used by the Israeli government.

    Israel has an estimated number of around 50,000-60,000 African migrants living within its borders, around 0.6% of its 8 million population.

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    Dumb idea IMO, I think it will have the opposite effect. Sneak into developed democratic country that is obligated to feed, shelter and protect you by law, collect free money, move on.

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    It would be a bad payoff.

    Assuming you would have about a 10% chance of surviving the trip, or more like a 50/50 chance of contracting some sort of disease or injury on the way in.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...rant-sea-libya

    In many ways, its far more profitable to pickup a gun and start pirating passing ships. The possibility of death is probably just as high, but the rewards would be infinitely higher.
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    I heard that in the 90's, Israel got busted for throwing blood donations from black Jews into the trash.


    "Ethiopian In Israeli Riot Over Dumping of Donated Blood"
    http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/29/wo...ted-blood.html

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    Originally posted by ZenOps
    It would be a bad payoff.

    Assuming you would have about a 10% chance of surviving the trip, or more like a 50/50 chance of contracting some sort of disease or injury on the way in.
    I just assumed they would use the land link from Africa to Israel, longer trip but safer than a boat direct to Europe.


    Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow
    I heard that in the 90's, Israel got busted for throwing blood donations from black Jews into the trash.


    "Ethiopian In Israeli Riot Over Dumping of Donated Blood"
    http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/29/wo...ted-blood.html
    Sounds a little different when you read the article:

    "blood they donated was secretly dumped because of fear that it was contaminated with the virus that causes AIDS."

    "Israeli officials have said that the blood was accepted from Ethiopians and surreptitiously thrown out so as not to stigmatize the donors publicly."

    "blood-collection officials ... did not use blood from Ethiopian immigrants because of a relatively high rate of H.I.V. infections among them"

    "Israel tests all donated blood for H.I.V, the virus that causes AIDS, but because the virus often does not show up for six months after infection it excludes certain high-risk groups as donors. In the United States, earlier in the AIDS epidemic blood was not accepted from Haitians, who were thought to be at higher risk of infection."

    "Instead of refusing to take blood from Ethiopian Jews, Israeli officials said they decided to dispose of it quietly so the donors, especially soldiers, would not be stigmatized in public."

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    Originally posted by 01RedDX



    Sounds a little different when you read the article:

    "blood they donated was secretly dumped because of fear that it was contaminated with the virus that causes AIDS."

    "Israeli officials have said that the blood was accepted from Ethiopians and surreptitiously thrown out so as not to stigmatize the donors publicly."

    "blood-collection officials ... did not use blood from Ethiopian immigrants because of a relatively high rate of H.I.V. infections among them"
    These explanations, while superficially plausible, ring false when viewed in the larger context of widespread Israeli racism against Black Jews.


    "Israel: promised land for Jews ... as long as they're not black? "

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/re...eyre-not-black

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    Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow


    These explanations, while superficially plausible, ring false when viewed in the larger context of widespread Israeli racism against Black Jews.


    "Israel: promised land for Jews ... as long as they're not black? "

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/re...eyre-not-black
    Sure, now let's put it in another context and examine some of the countries on Israel's borders. In Egypt, female genital mutilation is a common practice. In Saudi Arabia they legally behead adulterers, flog bloggers and forbid women from driving. In Jordan they massacred about 50K Palestinians in one go and voila! haven't had a single Palestinian problem since. That's the tip of the tip of the iceberg. What's worse than all of these things? Why a little bit of racism in big bad Israel, of course.

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    Logical fallacies are easier to ignore once you know what they are, but here is the one you are using in case you are interested:

    http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...-practice.html

    Originally posted by 01RedDX


    Sure, now let's put it in another context and examine some of the countries on Israel's borders. In Egypt, female genital mutilation is a common practice. In Saudi Arabia they legally behead adulterers, flog bloggers and forbid women from driving. In Jordan they massacred about 50K Palestinians in one go and voila! haven't had a single Palestinian problem since. That's the tip of the tip of the iceberg. What's worse than all of these things? Why a little bit of racism in big bad Israel, of course.

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    Originally posted by E36M3
    Logical fallacies are easier to ignore once you know what they are, but here is the one you are using in case you are interested:

    http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...-practice.html

    Thanks and here's the one you're using which actually negates your accusation:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

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    Originally posted by 01RedDX


    Sure, now let's put it in another context and examine some of the countries on Israel's borders. In Egypt, female genital mutilation is a common practice. In Saudi Arabia they legally behead adulterers, flog bloggers and forbid women from driving. In Jordan they massacred about 50K Palestinians in one go and voila! haven't had a single Palestinian problem since. That's the tip of the tip of the iceberg. What's worse than all of these things? Why a little bit of racism in big bad Israel, of course.
    What a textbook deflection.

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    Our Premier the Jew Ralph Klien gave the bums and creeps 100.00 plus a greyhound ticket to BC.
    And we all applauded.
    I see no difference.
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