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    Default Nine killed during bible study class in Charleston, SC

    Developing story, nine people killed during bible study at a church. CNN link

    (CNN)A white man walked into a historic African-American church in Charleston, South Carolina, and opened fire during a Bible study class, killing nine people Wednesday evening.

    The suspect was still at large early Thursday morning. And the shooting at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church, the oldest AME church in the South, is being investigated as a hate crime.

    "The only reason someone would walk into a church and shoot people that were praying is hate," said Charleston Mayor Joe Riley.

    Eight churchgoers died at the scene; a ninth at a hospital, police said.

    Officials wouldn't say how many people were at the prayer service during the shooting. There were survivors, said Charleston Police Chief Greg Mullen, but he didn't elaborate.

    Historic significance
    Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church has been a presence in Charleton since 1816 when African-American members of Charleston's Methodist Episcopal Church formed their own congregation after a dispute over burial grounds.

    It was burned to the ground at one point, but rebuilt.

    Every Wednesday evening, the church holds a Bible study in its basement.

    The shooting was "obviously the most intolerable and unbelievable act possible," the mayor said.

    "People in prayer Wednesday evening. A ritual, a coming together, praying, worshiping God. An awful person come in and shoot them is inexplicable," Riley said.

    Police received the first call around 9:05 p.m. Officers arrived to find several victims inside.

    "It's really bad. It's a very bad scene," local pastor Thomas Dixon said.

    Search on for suspect
    Police said the suspect in the shooting is a clean-shaven white man in his 20s, with a slender build. He was wearing a gray sweatshirt, blue jeans and boots.

    "He obviously is extremely dangerous," Chief Mullen said. "We will put all our resources, we will put all of our energy in finding this individual."

    The department asked anyone with information to call 911 dispatchers.

    "While we do not yet know all of the details, we do know that we'll never understand what motivates anyone to enter one of our places of worship and take the life of another," South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley said.

    Heavy police presence
    "Like everybody out here, we're sick to our stomachs that this could happen in a church," Rep. Dave Mack, a friend of the church's pastor, told CNN affiliate WCSC.

    Corey Wessenger, who was standing across the street from the church, said the area was swarming with law enforcement.

    "I just saw a group of about 40 people escorted by cops," Wessenger told CNN by phone.

    Community members gathered in a prayer circle just down the street from the scene.

    Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush canceled a scheduled town hall in Charleston on Thursday "due to the tragic events unfolding in South Carolina tonight."

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    Damn wtf

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    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...senator-victim

    State senator killed. Met with Hillary recently?
    Cocoa $12,000 per ton.

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    RIP to the deceased. Hopefully they catch this guy soon, was looking at the reddit thread for this and they had some photos of the guy posted there.

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    Brutal. RIP to the victims.

    Gotta be careful what I say... If it was a school shooting, a "ban education" comment would be acceptable. But in the case of a church shooting, if I say "ban religion", a third of Beyond will get their panties ruffled.

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/us...-shooting.html

    The suspect in the shooting that killed nine people at a historic black church in this city’s downtown has been identified by city and federal law enforcement officials as Dylann Storm Roof, 21, of the Columbia area.

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    His name is Storm Roof??
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    he's not labelled a terrorist? surprisingly

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    These cowardly acts piss me off... You are filled with hate and want to inflict harm? fine, give the potential victims a chance to fight back and protect themselves, rather than ambush them while they are at their most vulnerable. Fucking Coward.

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    Originally posted by vengie
    These cowardly acts piss me off... You are filled with hate and want to inflict harm? fine, give the potential victims a chance to fight back and protect themselves, rather than ambush them while they are at their most vulnerable. Fucking Coward.
    The goal of a terrorist is to inflict pain, not participate in a fair fight.

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    Originally posted by A790

    The goal of a terrorist is to inflict pain, not participate in a fair fight.
    Yes, I know that, I was simply stating an opinion out of frustration of how shitty our world is.

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    Originally posted by A790
    The goal of a terrorist
    This doesn't classify as terrorism, just mass murder. Terrorism is a massively overused word.

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    Originally posted by Feruk

    This doesn't classify as terrorism, just mass murder. Terrorism is a massively overused word.
    ter·ror·ism
    ˈterəˌrizəm/
    noun
    noun: terrorism

    the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

    Sounds like murder with the goal of bringing attention to any cause justifies the use of the word.

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    Sadly, just another Wednesday in the USA.

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    Originally posted by Feruk

    This doesn't classify as terrorism, just mass murder. Terrorism is a massively overused word.
    Let's say the gunman's name was Abdul ali-bin Zahaya, and the churchgoers were white. Any guesses as to how US media would report on it?

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    Originally posted by EM2FTL


    Let's say the gunman's name was Abdul ali-bin Zahaya, and the churchgoers were white. Any guesses as to how US media would report on it?
    Jihads in 'Murica zOMGG

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    Originally posted by 01RedDX
    You can argue semantics, but you can't argue that blacks aren't being actively terrorized in America on a daily basis.

    This is why America is quickly losing it status as world leader, still dealing with shit like rampant prejudice and poverty, still trying to figure out reproductive rights and healthcare in the 21st century.
    I think there's little doubt that blacks in the US are still treated as second class citizens. I think you exaggerate it slightly, but it is an important issue that they seem to have little intention resolving.

    However, the rampant racism and crazy preaching of the Bible Belt has very little to do with why the US is slowly losing it's status as THE world leader. China's got more people, they will soon be better educated, and they are willing to do jobs that Americans think are beneath them for less money. Prejudice, poverty, reproductive rights, and health care have nothing to do with it.

    Originally posted by EM2FTL
    Let's say the gunman's name was Abdul ali-bin Zahaya, and the churchgoers were white. Any guesses as to how US media would report on it?
    Because I always take the US media, who makes money on sensationalizing stories, as the beacon of truth? Fox News will call anything, even non-violent acts, terrorism.

    Originally posted by GTS4tw

    the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

    Sounds like murder with the goal of bringing attention to any cause justifies the use of the word.
    By your own definition, it's not terrorism... You have to draw the line somewhere between mass murder and terrorism, otherwise every mass murder would be an act of terrorism , which it isn't. The line is the word "political."

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    You can argue semantics, but you can't argue that blacks aren't being actively terrorized in America on a daily basis.

    Yes blacks were terrorized in this incident by a white person in what is most likely a hate crime. Guess what - there are hundreds if not thousands of similar incidents where the colors are reversed, or different, that occur in the USA every year. It's the large number of deaths in this incident which makes it a headline grabber
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