Broken RX8: I attempt to build an autocross car?

[01RedDX]

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[zieg]

Actually I'm thinking of going to RX7 Specialties for that. He quoted me a great deal on a stock spec rebuild. Cut-to-length side seals, upgraded apex seals (can't remember the name right now but not the type that forces you to premix every tank of gas..). Originally I had just approached him for help cleaning the parts and checking tolerances, but he laid it out for me and pretty well convinced me it's cheaper to have him reassemble it if he's already doing the disassembly and cleaning.

Really wanted to do that myself but now I dunno. I'm left with the impression I don't have the space or equipment to properly clean the parts, and a warranty would be awesome. What do you all think?

[EM2FTL]

You might want to search for some reviews of that shop.

[zieg]

I have. But it seems like stuff coming out of there lately has been pretty good. Sure as hell rather have an engine from them over a Mazda reman..

[tomt64]

Originally posted by ZiG-87
I have. But it seems like stuff coming out of there lately has been pretty good. Sure as hell rather have an engine from them over a Mazda reman..

I definitely wouldn't.

[zieg]

Well, I mean the plan always WAS to do it myself.. I guess I need a couple things to make that happen though.

I need:

-A way of cleaning the parts (would a standard parts washer tank work?)
-Special tools (breaker bar and socket for the flywheel nut, a press for the main gear bearings, anything else?)
-A rebuild manual would sure be nice. Any idea where I could get one? I looked in the beginning but didn't find much that was specific to the renesis.. All I see is this but I'm not sure it's exactly what I need.

[EM2FTL]

Originally posted by ZiG-87
I have. But it seems like stuff coming out of there lately has been pretty good. Sure as hell rather have an engine from them over a Mazda reman..

I have heard bad things about Mazda remans, hoping the negative experiences were related to motors that came out of Ontario. I've currently got ~5,000kms on a mazda reman that came from Japan, so far so good. My car is catless so i'm able to run premix, I have high hopes for this motor.

I've read about some real horror stories with the shop in question though.

[EM2FTL]

Originally posted by ZiG-87

-A rebuild manual would sure be nice. Any idea where I could get one? I looked in the beginning but didn't find much that was specific to the renesis.. All I see is this.

Atkins is a great source for 8 parts - tho with the exchange rate it's not so much a deal anymore.

Mazda's DVD (specify engine type on ordering): http://atkinsrotary.com/store/Mazda-...DVD-ARE56.html

[zieg]

Do you use 2-stroke oil through the OMP as well as premix? I didn't know cats + premix = bad?

Originally posted by EM2FTL


Atkins is a great source for 8 parts - tho with the exchange rate it's not so much a deal anymore.

Mazda's DVD (specify engine type on ordering): http://atkinsrotary.com/store/Mazda-...DVD-ARE56.html

ooooh nice, thanks.

[EM2FTL]

Originally posted by ZiG-87
Do you use 2-stroke oil through the OMP as well as premix? I didn't know cats + premix = bad?

Sorry, by premix I meant 2 stroke oil (currently using whatever I can find, planning to get a couple of cases of Idemitsu though). I just pour it in the gas tank before filling up - I have read that it reduces the life of a cat, not sure how significantly.

If this is an autoX car, surely you'll be removing the cat though?

[zieg]

Only once I move to STX, but I had been planning to start in CS to get my feet wet and reduce the initial cost. I'd be down for splitting an order of oil though.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

[01RedDX]

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[EM2FTL]

Originally posted by ZiG-87
Only once I move to STX, but I had been planning to start in CS to get my feet wet and reduce the initial cost. I'd be down for splitting an order of oil though.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Ahhh OK, not familiar with the classing rules for AutoX.

And that's a promising list! Splitting an order would be awesome but i'm up in Edmonton

[zieg]

No problem, I'm back and forth often enough. Going at least as far as red deer every other week.

[EM2FTL]

Well then, i'll PM you my # and we can figure out details! Happy to meet you in Red Deer as well.

[962 kid]

Why stray from the factory seals on this rebuild?

[zieg]

Good question. It's just what was recommended to be. But if I'm going to buy that atkins stuff I'll have to do a bit more reading and decide if the atkins seals are worth the extra cash. My impression right now is a solid "probably"?

[sr20s14zenki]

I can probably help you with rotor bearings and main bearings. I bought the tools from pineapple and have a press. Ill be doing my own soon.

[zieg]

Oh sweet! I'll bring the beer.

Ok, I'm doing this myself. For better or worse. It'll be a perfect project for me.

[sr20s14zenki]

No problem. lemme know when you get your shit ready. I have the socket for the main nut too. If you just wanna bring your engine here you can. I wouldnt mine busting open a renesis.