Tow truck driver hit, seriously injured on Deerfoot Trail

[jwslam]

Originally posted by 16hypen3sp
"People see the cop lights and suddenly slam on their brakes. Everyone is a fucking idiot in this province"

FTFY
There's also the granny who brakes hard in the left lane waving in 10 cars in. Unforutunately those right lane people are ones who can't make the lane change with 3 cars lengths behind them so they end up braking hard and waiting for the left lane to come to a full stop.

[OTown]

Originally posted by 16hypen3sp


I wasn't blaming the cop. I was blaming everyone in the left lane who suddenly slammed on their brakes causing mayhem.

Once we had room to pull over with the driver we rear ended, all he had to say was "People see the cop lights and suddenly slam on their brakes. Everyone is a fucking idiot on this highway."

I think you missed my point. People follow much too close (just like your friend) and get in rear enders every single day because of it. If people actually followed at a safe distance no matter what hazard poses itself (sudden braking for this example) would be easily dealt with by all involved. But people are in such a hurry that they think the extra 1 second following distance to the guy in front of them is going to get them to their destination so much quicker. Just not the case.

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[speedog]

Tailgating - plenty of people don't even realize they're doing it. My late father-in-law always tailgater, didn't matter if he was in his truck or huge ass diesel pusher motor home - it was just something that was a normal part of his driving style.

Hell, this past weekend I was west bound on John Laurie around 19th Street doing about 5k over. Here comes this vehicle behind and rides my butt about a car length back. Annoying as all hell and I figured I had no reason to lane change to get her off of my butt so instead I slowly and deliberately let my speed slow down over about 5-600 meters to the point that I was doing about 50kph. At that point she changed lanes and sped up and amazingly, she sped up to exactly the speed limit - why the fuck she felt the need to tailgate me one car length back at 5k over is truly mind boggling. Probably just the way she drives and most likely she would've soon be tailgating someone else because that's just her driving style.

[Rat Fink]

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[trevh]

Originally posted by Rat Fink
It's really sad how the average idiot driver has difficulty spotting first responder/emergency vehicles. Lights that flash that can be seen for miles ahead, yet people wait until the last second to react. It's also sad how first responders have to park in ways that they need to hang out into the next lane as a block so they don't get smoked by blind idiots.

.....and god forbid the day that one of the emergency vehicles needs to get somewhere in a hurry. Those same idiots who can't see through the windshield also can't see the lights in the rearview mirror either. Sigh.

Everything you said here is true. We shut down all lanes on deerfoot for a minor no injury accident for this reason. Any road on Calgary is dangerous and we treat it as such.
I wish I had a dash cam yesterday driving up deerfoot, heading to a grass fire in nose hill from douglasdale. Good thing we can drive on the shoulder the whole way.

[16hypen3sp]

Originally posted by OTown


I think you missed my point. People follow much too close (just like your friend) and get in rear enders every single day because of it. If people actually followed at a safe distance no matter what hazard poses itself (sudden braking for this example) would be easily dealt with by all involved. But people are in such a hurry that they think the extra 1 second following distance to the guy in front of them is going to get them to their destination so much quicker. Just not the case.

I didn't think we were following too close. I'd say we were right where we should have been. The truck in front easily outbraked the van we were in.

But yes, I, for the most part, agree, there is quite a bit of tailgating going on.

[jwslam]

I don't think there's anything wrong with tailgating: in the right time and place AND if you know what you're doing.
I'm a tailgater. But only on open roads where I can evade onto a shoulder when necessary, which I know how to properly do.

Too bad I'm in the 1% of tailgaters that know what I just said above.

[zipdoa]

Originally posted by jwslam
I don't think there's anything wrong with tailgating: in the right time and place AND if you know what you're doing.
I'm a tailgater. But only on open roads where I can evade onto a shoulder when necessary, which I know how to properly do.

Too bad I'm in the 1% of tailgaters that know what I just said above.

Originally posted by 16hypen3sp
I didn't think we were following too close. I'd say we were right where we should have been.

So you would say that given the situation, there was adequate distance between the van you were in, and the truck you were following?

Originally posted by 16hypen3sp
The truck in front easily outbraked the van we were in.

Sounds like the driver of your van didn't give himself enough stopping distance.

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[AndyL]

Originally posted by jwslam
I don't think there's anything wrong with tailgating: in the right time and place AND if you know what you're doing.
I'm a tailgater. But only on open roads where I can evade onto a shoulder when necessary, which I know how to properly do.

Too bad I'm in the 1% of tailgaters that know what I just said above.

Go back and look at the subject of this thread...

So you can tailgate, evade onto the shoulder... Right where I'm probably working... Genius!

[16hypen3sp]

Can't say with absolute certainty that we WERE NOT in the proper spot while following the truck. Seemed pretty fine to me at the time.

You can say that the accident would not have happened if people didn't start panic braking in front of a fully loaded van. Couldn't imagine if a semi had been in the left lane at the time. Would have been ugly.

People panic braked in that situation because they did not know the law about passing emergency equipment in the far lane.

[Go4Long]

Originally posted by 16hypen3sp


I didn't think we were following too close. I'd say we were right where we should have been. The truck in front easily outbraked the van we were in.

But yes, I, for the most part, agree, there is quite a bit of tailgating going on.

If you hit the person in front of you, you were following too close. Whether it was for conditions or your abilities is the only question.

The vehicle ahead of you should be able to make an emergency braking maneuver and you should have time to see it, process it, and react appropriately in order to avoid hitting them (without using the shoulder)...if you don't have time to do that, regardless of any other details, you were following too close.

[theken]

If you are a tailgater, you will get into an accident, top 1% of retarded is still retarded..... You realize you can not go faster than the guy ahead of you no matter how close you get to him he will not just disappear. 4 seconds following distance no less and you will be fine. Tailgating means you are aggressive, which means you make snap lane changes, which means you cut other people off to gain 2-3 seconds and end up at the same red light as the guy you passed.

I had a bike yesterday fly from behind me into a merge lane, barely make it in front of me without hitting the curb flying around like a retard, and the lights at Blackfoot I was ahead of him....the road is everyone's and it is everyone's responsibility to keep it SAFE not fast.

[16hypen3sp]

Heads up. Alberta Bill 5 incoming. also applies to snow plows.

If passed, Bill 5 The Traffic Safety Amendment Act, tabled in the legislature Wednesday, would require drivers in all lanes of traffic travelling on the same side of the road as a stopped emergency or roadside worker vehicle slow down to 60 km/h or the speed limit, whatever is lower, when the vehicle’s lights are flashing.

The same rules would apply to vehicles travelling in both directions on highways that only have one lane in each direction.



https://edmontonjournal.com/news/loc...s/traffic-bill

[Tik-Tok]

So what everyone already does?

[Masked Bandit]

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So what everyone already does?

I believe the law at the moment is for drivers in adjacent lanes only?

[bjstare]

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So what everyone already does?

I think you and I must drive on different roads. I see people driving like assholes close to tow trucks pretty regularly. Would love to see them hand out tickets for this.

edit: didn't see the snowplows thing. Not sure I'm on board with that.

[suntan]

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I believe the law at the moment is for drivers in adjacent lanes only?

That's what I thought.