Captain America: Civil War

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I can't wait! Cap 2 is my favourite Marvel movie so far.

[sexualbanana]

Interesting. I thought Civil War centred around mutant registration, but the trailer suggests it's centred around what to do with Bucky.

[shadowz]

Originally posted by sexualbanana
Interesting. I thought Civil War centred around mutant registration, but the trailer suggests it's centred around what to do with Bucky.

Gotta remember Fox owns the rights to Xmen and any mutant stuff related to the marvel cinematic universe including dead pool and such. Where as Marvel doesn't have the rights any more, luckily Sony is letting Marvel have the rights to Spider-Man so that he can take part in the MCU. Sucks big time that's why no Reed Richards either fox has the rights to Fantasic Four also

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[Vagabond142]

Originally posted by sexualbanana
Interesting. I thought Civil War centred around mutant registration, but the trailer suggests it's centred around what to do with Bucky.

It's still Cap vs Tony. However, as mentioned before, Fox owns the rights to the mutant parts of the MCU. That's why they couldn't call Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch "mutants" in Age of Ultron, instead calling them "Enhanced." And it is still about registration and the responsibility of being a superhero, just done more in line with the MCU vs the Marvel Multiverse (aka Comics)

I'm just happy Scarlet Witch is in there Always been a fan of the character, and the ways that she has utterly and completely fucked with the Marvel Multiverse in the comics XD I really REALLY hope they do a House of M style movie at some point (not likely tho, as Magneto is in the Fox half of the rights )

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looked awesome\!

[95EG6P]

pretty awesome

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I am pretty sure they will kill Tony in this movie as RDJ has stated he no longer wants to be Tony Stark.

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Damn Iron Man gets beat up pretty good haha

[killramos]

Who the hell is on the side of Captain America? Always thought he was a putz.

Also killing off Iron Man is tantamount to killing off this multi billion dollar franchise; you know the one where they have another half dozen movies already written and planned for the next 10 years.

Iron man brought the non-fox marvel to where it is now. Iron Man is what got Marvel bought by Disney for billions. Iron Man is the Avengers. RDJ will shut his mouth and maintain his status as highest paid hollywood actor so long as Disney keeps paying him to wear a CGI suit lol.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by killramos
Who the hell is on the side of Captain America? Always thought he was a putz.

Also killing off Iron Man is tantamount to killing off this multi billion dollar franchise; you know the one where they have another half dozen movies already written and planned for the next 10 years.

Iron man brought the non-fox marvel to where it is now. Iron Man is what got Marvel bought by Disney for billions. Iron Man is the Avengers. RDJ will shut his mouth and maintain his status as highest paid hollywood actor so long as Disney keeps paying him to wear a CGI suit lol.

There will always be next Ironman just as there will alway the next James Bond, just not Tony Stark or RDJ as he got too damn expensive.

[sexualbanana]

Originally posted by killramos
Who the hell is on the side of Captain America? Always thought he was a putz.

I'm not the biggest comic book guy, but I found the Civil War themes intriguing, so I'll explain it the way that I'm aware.

Civil War centres around the the Mutant Registration Act. After seeing all the violence and damage that these mutant battles have brought, the government decides that it's in the public's best interest to create a registry for all mutants.

Iron Man is on the side that supports the Act, believing that people need to be controlled and monitored.

Captain America is on the side that opposes the Act, believing that it is oppressive and against the rights and freedoms that everyone deserves to have.

How that translates to the movie will be different matter, given the previously mentioned restrictions on the use of mutants and such.

[JordanEG6]

Originally posted by sexualbanana

How that translates to the movie will be different matter, given the previously mentioned restrictions on the use of mutants and such.

From what I gather, the plot only revolves around the Avengers because of those licensing issues and studio rights.

After AoU leaves a city leveled and kills thousands of people, it causes international backlash and puts pressure on the US government to implement a system in which the Avengers are held accountable on actions and to be on an on-call basis directly under the gov't. Iron Man is all for it and Cap is against it.

From leaks, here the teams so far:


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It's unclear where Peter Parker goes, but if he sticks with Tony and jumps ship like the comics, that would be awesome as we'll possibly see multiple suits like this one:


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A few people here are confusing a couple of things.


The X-Men (mutants) are not a major factor in the Civil War storyline, and hence it's not really a big deal that Fox owns the rights to them. The Mutant Registration Act was an 80's plot device and was not part of the 00's Civil War.

Civil War happens around the Superhuman Registration Act, and has much more to do with the big-name Marvel superheroes than it did with the X-men. You'd be more likely to see Frank Castle than, say, Wolverine. That's not to say they haven't adapted it to fit the current MCU, as giving Bucky a large role is a pretty big change.

I think Spiderman's cross-licensing came too late for him to play the major role he did in the comics - I'd expect to see Black Panther be written in place of him, but we'll still get to see a bit of Spidey.

[killramos]

what happened to Ant Man?

[JordanEG6]

Originally posted by killramos
what happened to Ant Man?

Check Hawkeyes shoulder

[jampack]

Looks awesome!

With the Vision on the other team, it seems like Captain's team is the underdog. Hehe..

[That.Guy.S30]

Originally posted by jampack
Looks awesome!

With the Vision on the other team, it seems like Captain's team is the underdog. Hehe..

Scarlet witch can destroy them all. Her powers are above and beyond all the avengers.

Too bad spidey doesn't play the role he's supposed to play from the comics.

[403Gemini]

Not really about mutant registration - its about all heroes registering with the Governmnet.

Quick coles notes version of it;

There was a super hero team that basically had a reality TV show capturing bad guys. When they were chasing one of them down the dude went full postal next to a school and used his powers. It killed thousands of kids, including the heroes/camera crew

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This made the government believe that the superheroes need to take accountability for their actions, also this was after hulk destroyed a good chunk of Vegas (which is the world war hulk / planet hulk story line where they trick Banner into a space mission, where they actually jetison him to a different galaxy)

Stark sides with the government - captain america does not and believes that the heroes deserve their privacy for their personal lives safety.

Spiderman takes Starks side in the beginning , but realizes how crazy he is getting when he starts using nano technology to control villains that are imprisoned to push the efforts for their cause and swaps to captain americas side. Stark even created a fake Thor (which was interesting since they made such a big deal about vision - a robot - using Thor's hammer) , which went a bit out of control and kills a hero on captain americas team

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Depending where you stand on a moral standpoint - they're both right... but personally I felt like Stark was the villain in this story.

It all leads up to Cap ultimately getting assassinated after he surrenders by crossbones (snipes him in the head - but he was still alive) and a brain washed Sharon Carter - SHIELD agent- finishes the job and unloads her gun into him during the confusion.


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I've missed a lot of details - but the story is a lot more complex than the movie will obviously make it . But that said, you can't really have like 200+ heroes in a movie.

The roster is as follows

Anti-Registration (Captain Americas team)

Aegis
American Eagle
Ant-Man
Archangel
B.A.D. Girls, Inc. - Asp, Black Mamba, Diamondback
Battlestar
Big Wheel
Black Crow
Black Panther
Bloodshed (captured)
Blue Streak
Cable
Captain America (assassinated)
Captain Rectitude (captured)
Sharon Carter
Cloak
Coldblood
Neil Crawford
Cybermancer (deported)
Dagger
Daredevil (Matthew Murdock)
Demolition Man
Digitek (status uncertain)
Equinox
Ferocia
Firebrand
Firestar (retired)
Flag-Smasher (captured)
Flame
Sally Floyd
Jane Foster
Nick Fury
Ghost Maker (captured)
Gladiatrix (pardoned)
Goldbug (deceased)
Goliath (deceased)
Grindhouse (captured)
Hercules
Howard the Duck
Human Torch (pardoned)
Invisible Woman (pardoned)
Iron Maiden (captured)
Jack Flag (captured)
Johnny Justice (captured)
Jessica Jones
King Size
Kruzado (captured)
Lectronn
Lightbright (captured)
Living Mummy
Mandarin's Avatars - Ancestor (captured), Foundry (captured), Lich (captured), Sickle (captured), Warfist (captured)
Marvel Boy
Mastermind Excello
Ms. Marvel (Sharon Ventura) (captured)
Natural (captured)
Night Nurse (Linda Carter)
Night Nurse (Unrevealed)
Plunderer (deceased)
Prodigy
Prowler (captured)
Punisher
Quicksilver
Monica Rambeau
Celia Ricadonna
Scorecard
Secret Avengers - Luke Cage, Doctor Strange, Iron Fist, Ronin, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Wolverine
Shadowoman
Shockwave (captured)
Shroud (captured)
Silhouette
Solo (pardoned)
Aaron Stack
Staten Island Star (captured)
Steel Spider
Storm
Sub-Mariner
Thunderclap
Timeslip
Typeface (deceased)
Ben Urich
U.S. Annie (captured)
Veil
Wildstreak
Winter Soldier
Wong
Yancy Street Gang
X-Factor Investigations - M (Monet St. Croix), Layla Miller, Multiple Man, Rictor, Siryn, Strong Guy, Wolfsbane
X-Force - Caliban, Domino, Shatterstar
Zapster (captured)

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Pro-Registration

Bantam (deceased)
Baron Blitzschlag
Beast
Bishop
Blade
George Washington Bridge
Brother Voodoo
Captain Marvel
Champions - Aphrodite (CSA), Hercules (CSA), Hermes (CSA), Poseidon (CSA)
Comet Man
Commission - Valerie Cooper, Henry Gyrich, Dallas Riordan, Yellowjacket
Deadpool
Falcon
Force Works - TBC
Gauntlet
Great Lakes Champions - Big Bertha, Doorman, Flatman, Mister Immortal, Squirrel Girl
Hellcat
Heroes For Hire - Black Cat, Humbug, Misty Knight, Orka, Shang-Chi, Tarantula, Colleen Wing
Harold "Happy" Hogan
Initiative Training Program - Araña, Armory, Bengal, Cloud 9, Constrictor, Debrii, Gargoyle, Hardball, Komodo, MVP (deceased), Network, Puma, Rage, Red Wolf, Rocket Racer, Shooting Star, Slapstick, Stingray, Texas Twister, Thor Girl, Trauma, Triathlon, Ultra-Girl, Young Avengers, Zero-G
J. Jonah Jameson
Justice
Living Lightning
Micromax (hospitalized)
Mighty Avengers - Ares, Black Widow, Iron Man, Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers), Sentry, Wasp, Wonder Man
Mister Fantastic
Molten Man
Danielle Moonstar
Morbius
Nighthawk
Omega Flight - Arachne ,Beta Ray Bill, Agent Jeff Brown, Guardian (Michael Pointer), Sasquatch, Talisman, U.S.Agent
Paladin
Phone Ranger
Penance
Rangers - Armadillo, Firebird, Phantom Rider, Red Wolf, Shooting Star, Texas Twister, Yellowjacket
James Rhodes
S.H.I.E.L.D. - Black Widow, Mitch Carson, Doc Samson, Thaddeus Dugan, Maria Hill, Gabriel Jones, Jamie Madrox (Duplicate) (re-absorbed), Eric Marshall, Clay Quartermain, She-Hulk, Cape-Killers
Sabra
Scorpion (Carmilla Black)
Miriam Sharpe
Silverclaw
Skyhawk
Sprite (deceased)
Stargod (John Jameson)
Stilt-Man (deceased)
Beverly Switzler
Terminizer
Thor (CSA clone) (destroyed)
Thunderbolts - Atlas (hospitalized), Baron Zemo, Blizzard (depowered), Fixer, Joystick (captured), MACH-IV (depowered), Radioactive Man, Smuggler (depowered), Songbird, Swordsman
Thunderbolts Army - Ajaxis, Aqueduct, Asylum, Batroc, Beetle (Joaquim), Beetle (MK-II), Beetle (MK-III), Blacklash, Bloodstrike, Boomerang, Bulldozer, Bushmaster, Coronary, Death Adder, Doctor Octopus, Eel, Ironclad, Killer Shrike, King Cobra, Machete, Mathemanic, Snake Marston, Mongoose, Overmind, Ox, Piledriver, Porcupine, Pretty Persuasions, Primus, Quicksand, Rattler, Red Ronin, Scarecrow, Silk Fever, Slyde, Smiling Tiger, Tatterdemalion, Thunderball, Unicorn, Vapor, Vector, Vermin, Whiplash, Whirlwind, Wrecker, X-Ray, Zaran
Thunderbolts (CSA) - Bullseye, Green Goblin, Jack O'Lantern (deceased), Jester (deceased), Lady Deathstrike (arrested), Taskmaster (escaped), Venom
Tigra
Two-Gun Kid
Vienna
Vulture (hospitalized)

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So stoked for this movie... I really need to catch up on my Marvel lore though. There are so many good movies to look forward to next year!