San Bernardino Shooting

[msommers]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34987697

Something is fundamentally wrong in the US.

Police are attending a shooting in California, with reports of 20 victims.
The San Bernardino Fire Department tweeted that it was responding to a "20 victim shooting incident" and it was working to clear the scene.
It is still a "very active scene" and police are trying to secure the building, said a spokeswoman from the San Bernardino Police Department.
There may be up to three gunmen she said, and the shooters were heavily armed and possibly wearing body armour.
She did not confirm the number of victims.
A local reporter tweeted that people are being evacuated from the Inland Regional Center, a non-profit medical and health organisation.

[vengie]

Originally posted by msommers
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34987697

Something is fundamentally wrong in the WORLD.

Fixed.

RIP to the victims.

[Rocket1k78]

So sad and scary that this is happening more and more

[FraserB]

They should immediately implement magazine restrictions, background checks, waiting periods, prohibitions on certain guns and an "assault weapons" law.

If they had these laws, this would not have happened.

[phreezee]

Bomb threat in PA too http://fox43.com/2015/12/02/hacc-har...pus-evacuated/

[revelations]

Not something worth focusing on, esp in Canada, but here are some chart representation of mass shooting in America the past 5 years.

https://library.stanford.edu/project...america/charts

[sexualbanana]

Originally posted by FraserB
They should immediately implement magazine restrictions, background checks, waiting periods, prohibitions on certain guns and an "assault weapons" law.

If they had these laws, this would not have happened.

I've spoken at length with a friend of mine who works in corrections, and, from his perspective, the lack of universal health care is one of the biggest reasons why this is happening so often in the US. Because people can't afford to get diagnosed/treated, a lot of mental illnesses go unchecked until it basically boils over. Mix that with a gun culture and fairly lax gun regulation, it's a recipe for mass shootings.

[FraserB]

Originally posted by sexualbanana


I've spoken at length with a friend of mine who works in corrections, and, from his perspective, the lack of universal health care is one of the biggest reasons why this is happening so often in the US. Because people can't afford to get diagnosed/treated, a lot of mental illnesses go unchecked until it basically boils over. Mix that with a gun culture and fairly lax gun regulation, it's a recipe for mass shootings.

My post was sarcasm for the folks who would eventually come in and say those things would have stopped this.

California already has all the things I mentioned and has some the most restrictive gun laws in the US.

[n1zm0]

And the location of this incident is even more saddening too, I mean a place that helps developmentally disabled people, wtf??

Originally posted by revelations
Not something worth focusing on, esp in Canada, but here are some chart representation of mass shooting in America the past 5 years.

https://library.stanford.edu/project...america/charts

Over the past year, 355 including this one today in California:


» Click image for larger version

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...5th-this-year/

[FraserB]

Keep in mind there is no official definition of mass shooting. The “accepted” and most widely used come from mass shooting tracker, which is a crowd sourced website. The FBI only has a definition for mass killing

[01RedDX]

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[sexualbanana]

One of my favourite (for lack of a better term) discussions that occurs whenever these kinds of shootings happen:

Them: Guns don't kill people. Disturbed people kill people.
Me: Great. So get universal health care.
Them: Why should I pay for the health of others?

[sputnik]

They are only mentally ill if they are white.

If they are brown, they are terrorists.

[01RedDX]

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[FraserB]

Originally posted by 01RedDX
So the fact that California is surrounded by states with lax gun laws has no bearing then?

Once they bring the prohibited/controlled item across sate lines, they are committing a felony and are a criminal. Words on a piece of paper aren't going to keep people from committing crimes where they either illegally acquire an item or illegally modify what is available.

- Mag limits do nothing for safety and don't prevent criminal acts.

- "Assault weapon" bans don't make any sense since the definition has been distorted by politicians for political reasons.

- Background checks will tell you if someone is allowed to purchase from a point of sale where the check is being conducted.

- FA firearms are heavily regulated and are essentially impossible for the average person to acquire.

- A registry doesn't really stop crime, all it can really do is indicate where guns are so they can be confiscated once the decision to do so has been made.

All the money wasted on measures that make good sound bites would be better spent on mental health and implementing measures that might make a difference in safety.

[killramos]

So why are people talking about mental illness when there are 3 shooters? They break out of a mental hospital or something? 3 people all snap at the same time and place?

Anyone considered that they are just bad people out to hurt a ton of people?

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by sputnik

They are only mentally ill if they are white.

If they are brown, they are terrorists.

Unfortunately...this...

[g-m]

Originally posted by 01RedDX
Up to 12 dead at this point and 3 shooters on the loose. Very sad, 2-3 days at least until people forget about this one.

People won't forget because they never cared to begin with. I honestly couldn't care less about this kind of thing down south and I'm sure I'm not alone. I don't even finish reading the headline. Bill 6 is a much bigger deal

[BavarianBeast]

Originally posted by vengie


Fixed.

RIP to the victims.

Obama: pattern of mass shooters, no parralels anywhere else in world. Some steps we can take not to eliminate all shootings but improve the odds.

The US is indeed fucked up for being considered a first world country.

[BavarianBeast]

Originally posted by EK 2.0



Unfortunately...this...

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