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    Originally posted by Thaco
    i was looking at this today while considering changing out my 1980's furnace for a new "high efficiency" furnace... i figure, whats the f'n point? i realistically pay like $5/mo for heating, gonna ride this old beast til she dies, a new one wouldn't even pay for its self in the lifespan...
    Shit made before 2000 are way more reliable. All these new effiency furnace has way more electonics and senor failures.

    Unless NG goes back over $10, efficiency is pointless.

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    Originally posted by Seth1968


    Again you fucking morons, none of your shit answers my question.

    AH, I'm almost give up.
    Lol, your perma-rage is hilarious

    So what's your actual question? How much the running/maintenance costs are?

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    If you think your delivery charges are high now, wait until they start tacking on the riders to support all the renewable resource growth and killing coal
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    I got a high efficiency to replace a 42-year old Coleman.

    That thing never went down.

    The only thing that pushed me to do the high eff upgrade was the $750 rebate they had for a few years.

    At these prices, not only will you never recover the price of the high eff, but you will also continually lose money on the first problem that requires servicing from a tech.
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    Originally posted by Xtrema
    Unless NG goes back over $10, efficiency is pointless.
    Go tell our Premier that.

    Actually, don't. She'll come up with a policy that inflates the price of NG so efficiency becomes viable again.
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    Originally posted by 16hypen3sp


    Go tell our Premier that.

    Actually, don't. She'll come up with a policy that inflates the price of NG so efficiency becomes viable again.
    Maybe that's what I'll go do. It's good for my pockets in more than one way.

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    Originally posted by jwslam

    Maybe that's what I'll go do. It's good for my pockets in more than one way.
    I definitely see your point. haha.
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    Everything is getting more efficient nowadays. A computer that took up a room and used the equivalent of a gas generator to run a few decades ago can now run in your pocket and run on AA batteries.
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    Originally posted by ZenOps
    Everything is getting more efficient nowadays. A computer that took up a room and used the equivalent of a gas generator to run a few decades ago can now run in your pocket and run on AA batteries.
    Everything except government.
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    Originally posted by 16hypen3sp

    Actually, don't. She'll come up with a policy that inflates the price of NG so efficiency becomes viable again.
    She already did, carbon tax is going to raise NG from $2.5/GJ to $4/GJ.

    We are also going to change all coal to NG, so your electricity cost based on this increase along will raise by 50%.

    Renewable will cost no where near NG or coal either. So expect 15 cents per kwh in about 3 to 4 years.

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    Originally posted by Xtrema


    She already did, carbon tax is going to raise NG from $2.5/GJ to $4/GJ.

    We are also going to change all coal to NG, so your electricity cost based on this increase along will raise by 50%.

    Renewable will cost no where near NG or coal either. So expect 15 cents per kwh in about 3 to 4 years.
    Yes. I agree with your assessment.
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    someome needs to off that ho

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    Hey Seth read some shit from here or shut the fuck up;
    http://www.auc.ab.ca/regulatory_docu...Decisions.aspx

    There's all the decisions the AUC makes that are apparently legal fraud. So fuck off and quit looking for easy answers on Beyond.
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    Pipelines and power lines are extremely expensive. They're also infrastructure you don't want companies cheaping out on
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    Originally posted by Unknown303
    Hey Seth read some shit from here or shut the fuck up;
    http://www.auc.ab.ca/regulatory_docu...Decisions.aspx

    There's all the decisions the AUC makes that are apparently legal fraud. So fuck off and quit looking for easy answers on Beyond.
    Why shouldn't there be an easy answer to:

    What is the actual cost of new infrastructure, maintenance, etc, and what are we all paying for that?

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    Originally posted by Unknown303
    Hey Seth read some shit from here or shut the fuck up;
    http://www.auc.ab.ca/regulatory_docu...Decisions.aspx


    The infrastructure is super expensive to maintain and develop. ATCO Gas and ATCO Electric are also highly regulated, not some 'setting their own price' entity.
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    Originally posted by Canmorite




    The infrastructure is super expensive to maintain and develop. ATCO Gas and ATCO Electric are also highly regulated, not some 'setting their own price' entity.
    "expensive" is relative, and "regulated" does not by necessity mean fair.

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    Originally posted by Seth1968


    "expensive" is relative, and "regulated" does not by necessity mean fair.
    If you don't think it's fair, go buy a generator and go off grid.

    All I can say is that there is some labor cost that we can't be as cheap as possible. But other than than, the infrastructure is pretty lean.

    And companies like Enmax and TranAlta are union busting to keep the cost low (at least from the IT angle).
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    Originally posted by Xtrema


    If you don't think it's fair, go buy a generator and go off grid.
    Seriously. Seth, do you only want to pay for the power/gas you receive, and not maintain the infrastructure it uses to get to your house? What's your point?

    As stated, go spend thousands on a generator and other requirements to go off the grid then.
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