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    Argh awful. Can admit I did some stupid things younger. Thankful for my parents/first responders/friends it didn't end up like that. RIP boys. Heart goes out to not only family/friends but have to remember the first responders seeing and dealing with the situation. PTSD is real, to those medics/cops, hope they're doing ok as well.

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    Terrible news. Condolences to all parties.

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    Nah man, these kids were clearly scum, destined to live on the streets and never amount to anything. Killramos would never have associated with these guys at their age and definitely would've seen it coming.

    Feeling bad for the people who died and their family is 100% pure ignorance of reality. You should be ashamed.
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    Terrible that it was two twins that died, I feel so sorry for their parents.

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    I don't buy the "kids do dumb things, this is typical" stuff.

    That facility has been there for 30 years. This is the first time this has happened. Tens of thousands of kids have been aware of its existence during that time, and all the rest of them, without exception decided that maybe it was a bad idea to do this.

    This wasn't garden variety teenage thrill seeking. This was stupidity on an epic scale.

    I feel sad for the parents, of course. But these "kids" were almost adults. And they definitely weren't "victims" of anything. Some kid gets killed by a drunk driver, or cancer? That's different.

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    apparently the twins worked at COP last year. Assuming it was their idea and they knew how to get in. Probably should have known to check the track set up

    RIP

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    Originally posted by Buster
    I don't buy the "kids do dumb things, this is typical" stuff.

    That facility has been there for 30 years. This is the first time this has happened. Tens of thousands of kids have been aware of its existence during that time, and all the rest of them, without exception decided that maybe it was a bad idea to do this.

    This wasn't garden variety teenage thrill seeking. This was stupidity on an epic scale.

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    Originally posted by Buster
    I don't buy the "kids do dumb things, this is typical" stuff.

    That facility has been there for 30 years. This is the first time this has happened. Tens of thousands of kids have been aware of its existence during that time, and all the rest of them, without exception decided that maybe it was a bad idea to do this.

    This wasn't garden variety teenage thrill seeking. This was stupidity on an epic scale.

    I feel sad for the parents, of course. But these "kids" were almost adults. And they definitely weren't "victims" of anything. Some kid gets killed by a drunk driver, or cancer? That's different.
    You assume this is the first time someone has gone onto the track after hours but in reality you've only heard about it for the first time because of the way it ended.
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    No I can guarantee its not the first time it has happened

    Crazy carpets and those discs are very bad plans. Not that I would know.

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    Originally posted by Buster
    I don't buy the "kids do dumb things, this is typical" stuff.

    People like to make it seem like being a retard is ok so others can continue being retards. Its also horrendously patronizing and rude to try and label all kids as being "young and stupid". No, some people are just idiots with no self control. Gotta pay to play, self-preservation is sometimes a hard lesson.

    And WGAF if someone was student president? Whoopdee doo. A popularity contest somehow makes someones death more tragic? Jesus beyond is fucked Sure, I did some stuff I consider stupid when I was younger, but I never did anything that had a high probability of death

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    Originally posted by kenny


    You assume this is the first time someone has gone onto the track after hours but in reality you've only heard about it for the first time because of the way it ended.
    Correct! I actually know that kids have done it before, many times.

    My nephew is friends with them, he actually got invited but was asleep when they texted.

    I haven't read the whole thread but it actually wasn't a gate which I've heard people saying, but a chain across the track at head height.

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    Part of the gate is a chain. They would have hit the chain first and then been rammed into the corner between the gate and track.

    Considering the two who died used to work there, you'd think they would have a clue as to how dangerous their idea was and at least checked the track.
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    Originally posted by Buster
    That facility has been there for 30 years. This is the first time this has happened. Tens of thousands of kids have been aware of its existence during that time, and all the rest of them, without exception decided that maybe it was a bad idea to do this.
    Originally posted by kenny
    You assume this is the first time someone has gone onto the track after hours but in reality you've only heard about it for the first time because of the way it ended.
    Originally posted by AndyL
    No I can guarantee its not the first time it has happened

    Crazy carpets and those discs are very bad plans. Not that I would know.
    I can also confirm its not the first time something like this was attempted. I know a group who attempted it on skis. Thankfully it was next to impossible to stay upright and gather any speed so the whole thing was scrapped and the group went to a movie instead. Well at least that's what I heard
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    Originally posted by kenny


    You assume this is the first time someone has gone onto the track after hours but in reality you've only heard about it for the first time because of the way it ended.
    Apparently it was the first time with the gate closed.

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    Originally posted by HiTempguy1


    People like to make it seem like being a retard is ok so others can continue being retards. Its also horrendously patronizing and rude to try and label all kids as being "young and stupid". No, some people are just idiots with no self control. Gotta pay to play, self-preservation is sometimes a hard lesson.

    And WGAF if someone was student president? Whoopdee doo. A popularity contest somehow makes someones death more tragic? Jesus beyond is fucked Sure, I did some stuff I consider stupid when I was younger, but I never did anything that had a high probability of death
    The one kid went to Westmount, which as far as I can tell is the very definition of a "Special Snowflake" school.

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    I digress somewhat.

    That is, I did some crazy stuff as a young "adult", but to go down a bobsled run in which the trained professionals fear for their life? Well, there is no drunken stage I would be in to do something that stupid.

    One you can imagine, six? FFS

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    Guaranteed:

    A law suit against the COP.

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    Originally posted by Seth1968
    Guaranteed:

    A law suit against the COP.
    If there is and its not tossed, it would show just how messed up our court system is.
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    Originally posted by FraserB


    If there is and its not tossed, it would show just how messed up our court system is.
    I wouldn't be surprised.

    The kids were gonna go on and cure cancer.

    COP should have done more to prevent this.
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    Originally posted by Seth1968
    I digress somewhat.

    That is, I did some crazy stuff as a young "adult", but to go down a bobsled run in which the trained professionals fear for their life? Well, there is no drunken stage I would be in to do something that stupid.

    One you can imagine, six? FFS
    It was a passed down right of passage at abe... At least when I was there in the 90s...

    When you got caught - no different than police and outdoor pools - finger wag "don't do it again" "our next patrol is in 90min dont be here" (so you'd do another run)

    All information I've heard - I'd never do such things

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