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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen81 View Post
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    Is anyone able to confirm if the Nest or alternatives (Ecobee, etc) can control humidity or would I still need to keep the separate control unit on the wall for that? It's a newer high efficiency furnace with the humidifier and HRV.
    Nest (Gen 3, not E), can control the humidifier if you have a relay. I have not set mine up yet myself as I asked the furnace people to do so when they installed everything and they did not and just put it a control unit on the furnace ducting in the basement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schocker View Post
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    Nest (Gen 3, not E), can control the humidifier if you have a relay. I have not set mine up yet myself as I asked the furnace people to do so when they installed everything and they did not and just put it a control unit on the furnace ducting in the basement.
    To add onto this, it depends. If it's a 2-wire 24v humidifier, then it needs a relay and a "Nest pro" installer, in order to access the menu to enable it. I also want to enable it.

    This is on my Nest Gen 2.
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    I think you don't need a nest pro for this as the menu is there when I have scrolled through.
    From what I have figured is that you could use something like this:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000H5Y1SA...140_TE_3p_dp_1
    Then use a spare wire from your thermostat into open/close the relay and control the humidifier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen81 View Post
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    Is anyone able to confirm if the Nest or alternatives (Ecobee, etc) can control humidity or would I still need to keep the separate control unit on the wall for that? It's a newer high efficiency furnace with the humidifier and HRV.
    Ecobee controls humidity. No need for a separate unit.
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    Nest will control humidity. I used to have a humidistat and when they came to install the A/C the guy rewired it so that control was now with the thermostat

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    I can confirm a few things here:

    The ecobee2 controls humidity and does not require a relay. It has enough jam to open/close the solenoid valve to the water supply.

    The Nest (Gen 2) controls humidity and DOES require a relay. You can get these from a few different places and are super easy to wire. You do NOT require a Nest Pro to enable it.

    The ecobee2 will run the fan/humidifier independant of any heat/cool to bring to desired humidity. I don't believe the nest can. It only runs when a heat/cool/fan function is enabled.

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    Nest is able to control humidity but I don't think my guy used a relay? Gen 3

    Edit: Also confirm Nest is able to run humid independent of heat.
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    So with the $100 rebate dj_rice identified in another thread, a variety of smart thermostats are essentially free right now. Question is should I bother as we have an older furnace that's still in very good condition, a programmable thermostat that is set up and that we don't ever touch, no AC and no humidifier either.

    The only place I can possibly see savings is by how these smart thermostats claim to learn when you're not home but how exactly do they learn this - school me on this one exact aspect.

    edit: did some reading and figured it out, now which Nest is on sale? Oh and how does the Lyric T5 compare to the similar Nest - might opt for a T5 if it's as capable.

    edit #2: I only have a 2 wire system and pulling in a new cable is not an option. I am leaning towards the T5 with it's geofencing and I am more than capable of installing a THP9045 module but where can one purchase one of these modules locally?
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    We’ve been using a Nest for the past couple weeks… hasn’t seemed to learn anything yet and the auto away mode (when your cell phone is away from the house) doesn’t seem to work that consistently with 3 people added to the house. It does look cool on the wall though!

    Going with an EcoBee3 in the next house.

    Can the EcoBee control the house humidity so you don’t need that stupid humidifier control knob? Also can the EcoBee control the homes HRV/Ventilation system? Trying to have everything controlled in 1 spot and not have 3 wall mounted things scattered around.

    Don’t want this:

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    AFAIK Ecobee can only control 1 accessory, so either Humidifier, or HRV. Not both. My setup has it controlling humidifier. I only use the HRV a handful of times a year, so wasn't a big deal that it's on a separate wall switch like it always has been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    AFAIK Ecobee can only control 1 accessory, so either Humidifier, or HRV. Not both. My setup has it controlling humidifier.
    Well shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88CRX View Post
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    Well shit.
    Don't think any of the new smart thermostats can do that, only single accessory control. The older Honeywell Prestige line can control humidifier/dehumidifier/HRV all separately if that's a must have.
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    Just trying to avoid having this slick looking black eco bee touch screen with a big white knob for humidity and an ancient HRV control box beside it. Maybe move the HRV controls somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88CRX View Post
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    Just trying to avoid having this slick looking black eco bee touch screen with a big white knob for humidity and an ancient HRV control box beside it. Maybe move the HRV controls somewhere else.
    Hook up the humidifier to your smart thermostat and leave the HRV. How does your HRV controls look? My HRV control is a simple light switch at light switch level so it doesn't look out of place whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by infected View Post
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    Nest is able to control humidity but I don't think my guy used a relay? Gen 3

    Edit: Also confirm Nest is able to run humid independent of heat.
    you sure its working properly?

    Or it's plugged into the board and not the solenoid directly.

    My Nest3 definitely needed a relay to operate the solenoid.

    - - - Updated - - -

    after doing enough google-fu, these are the relays I used, just in case someone in the future is doing a search.

    https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    Hook up the humidifier to your smart thermostat and leave the HRV. How does your HRV controls look? My HRV control is a simple light switch at light switch level so it doesn't look out of place whatsoever.
    Yea the old school ‘ventilation fans’ are just a regular switch.

    I’m not sure the exact one I’m getting but some of the new true HRV’s have fancy controls… can’t find a picture of what I’ve seen in new builds but its something like this:



    Or



    Which maybe just means it’s a fancy switch with a timer and some other options. Could always remove it for a regular on/off switch I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedog View Post
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    edit #2: I only have a 2 wire system and pulling in a new cable is not an option. I am leaning towards the T5 with it's geofencing and I am more than capable of installing a THP9045 module but where can one purchase one of these modules locally?
    As far as I know wifi thermostats will not work with a 2-wire system, the wifi portion and screen need 24V to be powered, and without power they don't do jack. I ran into the same '2 wire only' issue and had to install a 24V transformer in the wall to power mine, also needed the relay installed, what a PITA but worth it to me.

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    Hmm our control unit is on the main floor and it controls AC and heat but we have to set it cool or heat. The humidifier control is on the furnace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    you sure its working properly?

    Or it's plugged into the board and not the solenoid directly.

    My Nest3 definitely needed a relay to operate the solenoid.

    - - - Updated - - -

    after doing enough google-fu, these are the relays I used, just in case someone in the future is doing a search.

    https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Was this easy to set up? I have a spare relay to use for this but wasn't sure how to wire it.

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    Anyone have recommendations on a smart thermostat for electric baseboard heating?

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