Isn't being laid off basically, fired without cause? The guy in this case received a severance package, but the issue is whether or not a corporation can arbitrarily let people go.
Yes, people have already been laid off but there will not likely be anymore
Yes, people have already been laid off and there will likely be more.
No, no one has been laid off yet but there will likely be layoffs during the coming months
No, no one has been laid off and there likely won't be any layoffs in the coming months
I WAS laid off but have since found other employment
I WAS laid off and am still looking for other employment
My company went under / other (explain in comments)
Isn't being laid off basically, fired without cause? The guy in this case received a severance package, but the issue is whether or not a corporation can arbitrarily let people go.
don't you still need a reason to lay off someone. (i.e. economic times, downsizing, etc.)Originally posted by 98type_r
Isn't being laid off basically, fired without cause? The guy in this case received a severance package, but the issue is whether or not a corporation can arbitrarily let people go.
I'm sure companies out there are still hiring after they lay people off due to economic reasons. No one complains because they don't wanna burn a bridge.
Being fired = your employment ends immediately, the company does not need to pay severance, nor continue benefits during severance period, and you are not eligible for EI. But you need reasonable causeOriginally posted by 98type_r
Isn't being laid off basically, fired without cause? The guy in this case received a severance package, but the issue is whether or not a corporation can arbitrarily let people go.
Laid off = let go without reason but they must provide adequate severance based on the time you've been with the company. Also you are eligible to receive EI.
From a $ perspective if the company fires someone it costs them less (especially senior people that have been around for decades)
You can also fire without cause but have to pay severance can you not? Which is essentially laying off?
Didn't think you can fire without cause. Can't you sue an employer for that?Originally posted by lasimmon
You can also fire without cause but have to pay severance can you not? Which is essentially laying off?
Not necessarily. Anyone making big $$$ will sue the pants off a company if they are fired, unless it is a black and white, open and shut case. I've seen many times, even with GROSS negligence/bad performance, that people still get severance packages (and sign non-disclosure agreements and agreements not to sue) to leave a company.Originally posted by pheoxs
From a $ perspective if the company fires someone it costs them less (especially senior people that have been around for decades)
And just so we are clear, I am NOT talking about union employees, but professionals.
You can not fire without cause. Firing is essentially negligence or not meeting expectations, laying off is due to economic of business performance. Layoffs TECHNICALLY can not be based on merit either, or else it is no longer a layoff, but a constructive dismissal. This is why when layoffs occur, you'll hear of a lot of people getting let go that were valuable. In smaller companies, more cherry-picking happens, but in large companies, everyone is just a number.Originally posted by lasimmon
You can also fire without cause but have to pay severance can you not? Which is essentially laying off?
As I mentioned earlier, the cost of lawyers to defend in a lawsuit against a complainant (even if they have a crap case) is so large, it makes sense most of the time for the employer to just pay for the problem to go away.
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Another 300 at Conoco. This is shortly after the Nexen announcement. Wonder which company will be the next to follow.
http://calgaryherald.com/business/en...ost-in-calgary
Husky?Originally posted by 2000impreza
Another 300 at Conoco. This is shortly after the Nexen announcement. Wonder which company will be the next to follow.
http://calgaryherald.com/business/en...ost-in-calgary
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Until you get director/president titles, you are still middle management and expendable.Originally posted by Sugarphreak
A friend of mine in upper management was just walked out the door this morning
There's a legal minimum depending on how long you've worked there. 1 week for 3 months up to 2 years, 2 weeks up to 4 years, 4 weeks up to 6 years, etc.Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Severance depends more on your employment agreement and company policy, it isn't a guaranteed thing.
Obviously a lot of people can get more than that. But that is what I meant by adequate.
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Which can also be increased based on common law.Originally posted by pheoxs
There's a legal minimum depending on how long you've worked there. 1 week for 3 months up to 2 years, 2 weeks up to 4 years, 4 weeks up to 6 years, etc.
Obviously a lot of people can get more than that. But that is what I meant by adequate.
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I think we should create a part 6 as I don't think this poll is relevant to the current situation any more?
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Always a fucking awful experience seeing spikers. Extra awful when he laps me.
Our company is back to hiring field staff like crazy. We locked up some pretty big contracts that are guaranteed for the next year.
Service company.
That said if there are any class 1 drivers with oilfield experience looking for work shoot me a PM and I'll point you where your resume needs to go.