Garage Improvements

[navdeep]

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you just cut the plug ends off and attach to power in the sockets?

I almost have the same setup, I just plugged mine into a smart switch so I can control mine from my apple home kit

[B.Spilner]

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I almost have the same setup, I just plugged mine into a smart switch so I can control mine from my apple home kit

Do you have an ecobee running your furnace in there??

[navdeep]

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Do you have an ecobee running your furnace in there??

yup, i have 3 of them all together

[gpomp]

I have 32x of those Barrina LED's if anyone is interested. They are 2200 lm and 5000K so a bit different than what Amazon.ca sells. Will let them go for less than what Amazon is selling them for.

[MPowered]

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I have 32x of those Barrina LED's if anyone is interested. They are 2200 lm and 5000K so a bit different than what Amazon.ca sells. Will let them go for less than what Amazon is selling them for.

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[R-Audi]

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I have 32x of those Barrina LED's if anyone is interested. They are 2200 lm and 5000K so a bit different than what Amazon.ca sells. Will let them go for less than what Amazon is selling them for.

Damnit, I ordered a pack of 8 on the weekend.

[GOnSHO]

Ordered 3 sets of those lights, mudded/sanded the whole garage this weekend! Paint and lights this week!

[pheoxs]

Gonna post this in here since it's not new thread worthy at this point.

I'm looking at replacing my old single garage with a 22 wide x 32 deep garage in the next year or two mostly as I want a ton more workshop space. Recently I started floating the idea of a basement/storage area underneath the garage and it seems that pre-cast concrete spans aren't as intimidating as I originally thought (http://www.lafargeprecastedmonton.co...estern-canada/) and its looking fairly feasible to do.

Wondering if anyone know anyones thats done a storage area under their garage and might have some advice.

I'm assuming I'll need:
A) A pinky ringer to stamp the design
B) A lot more excavation costs
C) A fair bit more expensive foundation / concrete costs
D) The beam/span structure however its designed (+1 day of a crane to move them into place)
E) A 2-3" slab poured on the span
F) Regular garage building after that?
Assuming we're talking .... ~20-25k extra on top of a regular garage pad cost?

The plan was to DIY the build after the concrete step as me and my dad have built a number of buildings before, trying to figure out how to go about this. Would I need to seek out a niche concrete company or is this somewhat common give that it's similar to a house having a basement poured anyways.

[JfuckinC]

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Gonna post this in here since it's not new thread worthy at this point.

I'm looking at replacing my old single garage with a 22 wide x 32 deep garage in the next year or two mostly as I want a ton more workshop space. Recently I started floating the idea of a basement/storage area underneath the garage and it seems that pre-cast concrete spans aren't as intimidating as I originally thought (http://www.lafargeprecastedmonton.co...estern-canada/) and its looking fairly feasible to do.

Wondering if anyone know anyones thats done a storage area under their garage and might have some advice.

I'm assuming I'll need:
A) A pinky ringer to stamp the design
B) A lot more excavation costs
C) A fair bit more expensive foundation / concrete costs
D) The beam/span structure however its designed (+1 day of a crane to move them into place)
E) A 2-3" slab poured on the span
F) Regular garage building after that?
Assuming we're talking .... ~20-25k extra on top of a regular garage pad cost?

The plan was to DIY the build after the concrete step as me and my dad have built a number of buildings before, trying to figure out how to go about this. Would I need to seek out a niche concrete company or is this somewhat common give that it's similar to a house having a basement poured anyways.

Also consider location of utilities, if you’re going from a single to something that big you may need to relocate your gas line? I had to relocate mine to build.

[jwslam]

probably easier to permit going up a storey...
much easier to design IMO

But my pinky-ring ass has never designed/stamped anything in my career and now it's kinda a life goal to live this way

[JfuckinC]

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probably easier to permit going up a storey...
much easier to design IMO

But my pinky-ring ass has never designed/stamped anything in my career and now it's kinda a life goal to live this way

honestly probably way cheaper, forming/pouring/finishing will be your biggest cost.

[ExtraSlow]

WHY NOT BOTH!!?!?!??!?!!!!! Basement and 2nd story in garage! I support this.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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WHY NOT BOTH!!?!?!??!?!!!!! Basement and 2nd story in garage! I support this.

^P.Eng approval obtained^

[bjstare]

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probably easier to permit going up a storey...
much easier to design IMO

But my pinky-ring ass has never designed/stamped anything in my career and now it's kinda a life goal to live this way

IIRC permitting a tall garage is not easy. Basement would be nice, but also poses it's fair share of challenges too.

Tbh, the bigger footprint is going to provide more useable space and will be easiest from a construction perspective. I wouldn't want to have to have a workshop up/downstairs either.

[Doozer]

Also want to consider different drainage, or whether you might want an opening between the spaces, like they have at a quick-lube places. Would save you from ever having to get a lift, but also introduce a host of other issues.

[pheoxs]

Basement would be preferred just because of the location, a two storey would block most of the sun from the yard and isn't appealing along with it being a neighborhood of bungalows.

Utilities shouldn't be any different. There's overhead power in the alley so either way I'd be relocating my meter to the garage with a new 200A panel and then running the house as a sub. There's no gas line to the garage currently so same same cost with or without the lower floor id presume. Maybe a bit more expensive if the line needs to be larger for sufficient heat.

I'd want a staircase down to the bottom along a side wall, not any kind of mechanic pit though. I hadnt really considered drainage as an issue, I'd assume sloping the main garage towards the big door and away from the stairs would suffice.

[88CRX]

You will soon learn that a structural slab is significantly more expensive then a rinky-dink residential slab on grade. You're also going to want a real traffic coating or membrane or else you'll have moisture issues in your basement. You also need to insulate the slab which is a huge pain in the ass.

[JfuckinC]

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Basement would be preferred just because of the location, a two storey would block most of the sun from the yard and isn't appealing along with it being a neighborhood of bungalows.

Utilities shouldn't be any different. There's overhead power in the alley so either way I'd be relocating my meter to the garage with a new 200A panel and then running the house as a sub. There's no gas line to the garage currently so same same cost with or without the lower floor id presume. Maybe a bit more expensive if the line needs to be larger for sufficient heat.

I'd want a staircase down to the bottom along a side wall, not any kind of mechanic pit though. I hadnt really considered drainage as an issue, I'd assume sloping the main garage towards the big door and away from the stairs would suffice.

you cant build over the gas line though, so would need to relocated your meter(pay atco)/main line in if it ends up beneath the new foot print. should be easy to tell if its an issue by the location of the meter though.

[bjstare]

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You will soon learn that a structural slab is significantly more expensive then a rinky-dink residential slab on grade. You're also going to want a real traffic coating or membrane or else you'll have moisture issues in your basement. You also need to insulate the slab which is a huge pain in the ass.

This is an accurate, but not exhaustive, list of the issues with adding a basement to the garage. I think of the three, this will be the most cost prohibitive option by a large margin.

[schurchill39]

Put in storage attic trusses and be done with it. 8' wide by 32' long is an extra 256 sqft of storage, if you fill that up on top of storage you have in your house then you have way too much shit. That was easily the best thing I did in the last garage I built.