Racial profiling as government policy (Trump again)

[ZenOps]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-r...lims-1.3642599

Side note: China has been racially profiling white people since forever. As business partners, white people are like 100:1 longshots at the track that pay off 300x when one occasionally makes it past the finish line.

Just opinion.

[HiTempguy1]

Racial profiling works

[ExtraSlow]

The entire concept is distasteful, but it seems like it is already happening in many parts of the USA with "carding" going on in New York most of the Southwest.

We readily accept profiling of blood donors based on sexual orientation. Israel has a very public system of racial and religious profiling that appears quite successful.

I don't know the best plan. I wish we didn't need one.

[zhao]

well you should really call a spade a spade in some cases.

say, perhaps, you're getting suicide bombed by a certain country where everyone happens to be green skinned and wears a purple flower hat as a requirement.

Now should you do random blanket checks of everyone in your country ignoring all evidence that narrows down your search because it may offend someone, or should you put more of your focus on paying attention to those who have a high ratio chance of actually committing the act you'd like to prevent?


The isreali's have an almost fool proof checklist of determining if someone is a suicide bomber or not. Yes, part of that profile has religious connotations, because they have a pretty much 100% record of being suicide bombed by muslims. Race in their profiling is not a factor, mainly because it does not help them. But they used to profile based on age and gender and nationality because they had a track record leading up to about 2000+ of almost only males 18-24 of palestine origin committing the attacks. Things changed and children and women are now used, including foreigners.



And IMO you better believe racial profiling and other profiling is already being used. If you are a religious nutjob or militia leader in the US, i dont care if you are 10th generation pure breed honky tracing both family trees back to george washington, you are likely on a watch list. If you just flew in from Iran or mainland China, you are likely getting profiled the shit out of.

Let me tell you about CSIS. I was interviewed by CSIS once back in about 2002/2003ish, and it was a big deal if you had Chinese mainlander friends at that time (I'm guessing nothing has changed at all since then either). That was a red flag for them, and you were to cut ties if you wanted a hope in hell of working for CSIS.

IMO, if it works, use it.

[Sugarphreak]

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Racial profiling, discrimination etc. it's everywhere.

Don't be heat, bro.

[Sugarphreak]

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[Kloubek]

I'm pretty outspoken when it comes to racism, and it is one of the reasons (and there are many) that I absolutely detest Trump.

But the fact is that racial profiling in itself isn't racism; it's simply the best way of providing focus and resources on the highest risk groups of people. I'm all for treating everyone equally and all, but if there is a reasonable way to reduce the amount of danger, injury, or death of innocent people (including non-radical Muslims) then I'm going to support it.

It just has to be done carefully and with a light hand. The moment you start taking away base rights and mistreating any group, you're asking for bigger problems.

[Xtrema]

1st rule of racial profiling is, we don't talk about racial profiling.

[lilmira]

Short cuts are great if you know what you are doing but they should never become protocols.

[rx7_turbo2]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
If you want to catch bad guys, do it based on facts and not prejudice

Right, the facts suggest one group over another are committing a given crime disproportionately.

This is always a tough conversation, extremely valid points on either side, no doubt over zealous racial profiling is a real concern but as a tool I think used in the right manor its an effective tool.

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
I have no clue what this means, lol

This youtube channel may help you:

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheChengman/videos

You're such an old white man, I think phreak needs a custom user title

[bjstare]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1


This youtube channel may help you:

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheChengman/videos

You're such an old white man, I think phreak needs a custom user title

He's the new Speedog.

[JohnnyHockey]

Big foiiiii!

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by JohnnyHockey
Big foiiiii!

Anytime someone mentions heat, heat score, or getting eye'd up by the popo, this always comes to mind.

That riced out civic that just drove by? "Heat score off tha charts, big fooiiiiiiii!"

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Originally posted by rx7_turbo2


Right, the facts suggest one group over another are committing a given crime disproportionately.

This is always a tough conversation, extremely valid points on either side, no doubt over zealous racial profiling is a real concern but as a tool I think used in the right manor its an effective tool.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it could still be a chicken!

[Sugarphreak]

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[Sugarphreak]

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[Str1der]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Any person that is serious about committing a major crime probably knows that and alter their appearance to some degree to counter it.

Oh really? Like whiteface?

[rx7_turbo2]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
It is such a slippery slope though

You're absolutely right about that.