Apple Thread

[killramos]

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After some reading (mostly memes haha) it looks like that $5k monitor and $1k stand is targeted for film professionals as I guessed. It's competing with stuff like this:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...reference.html

So in proper context, it's actually a good deal, and not intended for consumers. Probably never see one in an Apple store.

To be fair they have Mac Pro’s in the Apple stores. What’s 5k to Apple in the context of the floor inventory of the story. It’s worth it just for the hype factor and the half dozen morons who buy them for their home office.

I still think it’s a sweet piece of hardware all things considered.

[Mitsu3000gt]

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After some reading (mostly memes haha) it looks like that $5k monitor and $1k stand is targeted for film professionals as I guessed. It's competing with stuff like this:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...reference.html

So in proper context, it's actually a good deal, and not intended for consumers. Probably never see one in an Apple store.

From everything I've read so far and from people actually in the industry (or claiming to be in the industry), it apparently does not compete with those $30K monitors and the Dell 8K is better for most things - at least based on the info available. There are some very long reddit threads on it as well. The really expensive HDR reference monitors are not only brighter but they support the REC 2020 UHD gamut. The first clue is that Apple, of all companies, would probably be charging $50K for a monitor that actually competed with $30K monitors, and people would buy it.

The simple fact that you can't even calibrate it properly is ridiculous, so perhaps there is some info missing there. I can't find any info on it with regards to something like a 14bit hardware LUT.

I think it is aimed at consumers, because that is mostly likely who will buy it. I would absolutely expect it to be in the stores as they sell even more overpriced products in their stores currently. Serious production companies aren't using Apple monitors for reference (you can't even calibrate their iMac Pro), and I suspect Apple is relying on their fan base to buy the majority of these. The people dropping money on these will be the people who are wow'd by a demo video in an Apple store or because a Genius tells them they're the best, not Hollywood production teams or the like.

It's not necessarily a bad product, it just appears to be grossly overpriced which was expected.

[Xtrema]

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It's not necessarily a bad product, it just appears to be grossly overpriced which was expected.

It's basically equipment used by Youtubers to flex.

PC guy's perspective:

[Mitsu3000gt]

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It's basically equipment used by Youtubers to flex.

I could see popular YT channels being the target market for it.

Reminds me of this video, where Apple fans vehemently defended this product until they realized it was fake, and even after, still argued it would have been great LOL:

[ZenOps]

Linus makes an erroneous assumption about dust. Dust is mostly dead human skin. The only people who can afford these new systems are our Lizard overlords, who shed skin in large clump masses, and hence no dust.

So it is designed properly.

[ZenOps]

This only confirms to me that AMD and a two system redundant 32-core 750 watt apiece (1500 total) is the way to go (per outlet) for as many outlets as your server room has. Assuming standard 5-15 NEMA.

Intel having too many speculative vulnerabilities, completely nullifies any advantage ECC memory may have. Its also much easier nowadays with low latency gigabit wireless to simply push an X.264 stream of that 1500 watt x however big your server room is beast, to a $100 phone or tablet. Realistically if you don't need constant rechecking of color levels on a per second basis - it will do just fine for compiles. Anyone would do a private screening (probably on a $30,000 monitor) on a final pass anyhow - there actually is very little need to have any sort of pre-compiled accuracy unless you are 3D rendering non-human actors.

If Apple insists on Intel, and Dell goes with AMD - I'm pretty much going Dell. If the $64 Walmart Onn tablet ever got a Huawei 5G chip inside it, that would be my perfect setup.

[ZenOps]

Cramer says that the iPhone will never be fully produced in the USA.

I agree. If you start shifting production to the USA, then that monitor stand would probably cost closer to $2,000. Would a NBA player even wake up and get out of bed for less than $5 million per year salary?

[speedog]

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Cramer says that the iPhone will never be fully produced in the USA.

I agree. If you start shifting production to the USA, then that monitor stand would probably cost closer to $2,000. Would a NBA player even wake up and get out of bed for less than $5 million per year salary?

Wtf is up with your NBA player comment? That's way off in left field.

[ZenOps]

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Wtf is up with your NBA player comment? That's way off in left field.

Just to say that its pretty much a random number that Apple is pulling nowadays, much like pro-baller salaries. Maybe this would be better: Is the Apple stand simply a Birkin bag?

[Xtrema]

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Wtf is up with your NBA player comment? That's way off in left field.

[killramos]

Thought the new Mac Pro was expensive? Get ready to add a 0

https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/26...tariffs-tweet/

[Mitsu3000gt]

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Thought the new Mac Pro was expensive? Get ready to add a 0

https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/26...tariffs-tweet/

The 6 people who will buy those won't be happy about that

I can't imagine what their profit margin was already on those machines.

[eglove]

Traded my 8700non-k/1070ti pc gaming rig for a 2017 13" MacBook pro as I wasn't really using it and wanted to go back to OSX, but couldn't handle the dual core cpu and only 128gb of space. Sold that to my friend who needed a light laptop for school for $1200. Just ordered a refurb 6core 256gb 8gb mac mini for $1139 and then found a 32gb sodimm kit for $150. This should tide me over until I need an external GPU haha

[rage2]

I'm returning my MacBook Air. Essentially, it runs great, but it can't handle 2 4K external monitors. MacBook Pro on the way for $200ish more.

[killramos]

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I'm returning my MacBook Air. Essentially, it runs great, but it can't handle 2 4K external monitors. MacBook Pro on the way for $200ish more.

Good choice. Pro is the way to go.

[killramos]

Hey for you Apple TV people...

Is there any reason to get the 4K version if you will never be feeding it 4K content or into a 4K tv?

Thinking of getting one for the lake for Netflix and rentals etc., where we have a hard 6mbps limit and an older tv.

Any non 4K features you miss out on that I should know about? Wondering if the 29 bucks is money well spent if only to future proof.

[sabad66]

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Hey for you Apple TV people...

Is there any reason to get the 4K version if you will never be feeding it 4K content or into a 4K tv?

Thinking of getting one for the lake for Netflix and rentals etc., where we have a hard 6mbps limit and an older tv.

Any non 4K features you miss out on that I should know about? Wondering if the 29 bucks is money well spent if only to future proof.

I would spend the extra $30 for 4K for sure. If nothing else than just a faster/more responsive menu navigation (since it has a faster processor), and also to futureproof for future software updates/apps

[rage2]

It’s way faster. I’ve been slowly migrating my 4 to 4K when they go on sale even before I’ve upgraded those rooms to 4K TVs.

[Kavy]

I agree with everything already posted. In addition Apple put a 100 Ethernet card in the 4. Big question mark there. I run my 4 wireless and my 2 4ks hardwire.

[killramos]

Sweet. Good enough for me, speed is key.

This little thing is going to save me a bundle, just going to use my Shaw anywhere account to airplay to it from my phone rather than sign up for dedicated satellite out there. Good enough to catch most sports.