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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    Now that I've had the MBA for almost a week, wanted to update on how it is as a daily driver. I spent Friday and the weekend using the base MBA 8gb for work. It only supported 1 external 4K screen so I had to change my workflow slightly. My experience basically mimics all the use case non benchmark testing that's out there, the MBA 8gb absolutely flies. Even with 8gb it does not feel like it's swapping at all, even though istat menus clearly shows it's swapping way more than my MBP i5 16gb. Between all my apps I easily have 20-25gb in use at any time. I have a shit ton of tabs and virtual desktops open, hundreds of tabs across Chrome and Safari, Zoom, and the occasional Photos and iMessages and the MBA didn't skip a beat. It feels WAY faster than the MBA. Everything from native M1 apps, to Office under Rosetta, just feels faster.

    The biggest takeaway is the silence. With no fan, it's eerily quiet in the office. The MBP i5's fan is pretty much always on, so there's everything from an annoying whine to full blown jet engine depending if a tab goes crazy (Nest tab does that randomly). Never knew how much I've zoned out the fan until it's silent. The other thing is the wake. Every morning it takes a solid minute for the MBP to wake up and stabilize (from I'm assuming hibernation). Not so with the MBA. It just wakes up and starts working like I left it.

    Still won't be replacing my actual work laptop with an M1 till it supports dual monitors, but for everything else, I can't see the need of going to 16GB or even a MBP especially since I hate the damn Touch Bar. Worked on a couple of iMovie edits over the weekend and really had zero complaints about the speed at all, since it's still 3x faster than the MBP i5. It's pretty impressive the level of improvement with really just a CPU change.
    You just need 2 MBA’s
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    You just need 2 MBA’s
    There's dual monitor solutions already. Using display link as 2nd monitor, which includes its own graphics driver. Not really a clean setup. I can wait.
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    I want one , but I gotta sell my late 2019 base quad core 13” mbp (256gb ssd, touchbar ) first ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    There's dual monitor solutions already. Using display link as 2nd monitor, which includes its own graphics driver. Not really a clean setup. I can wait.
    That really surprises me, clearly the system is capable of rendering additional displays, TB3 is certainly not the bottleneck.

    I actually have no idea why the 1 external monitor is a thing, product of them pushing so hard to get support for the stupid 6k Monitor?
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    Black Friday from apple. New apple tv on the way if the giftcard is so agressive? Might need to get the non 4k for apple fitness.

    The gift card offer applies to the following Apple products below (updated!):

    $70 – iPhone SE, iPhone 11, iPhone XR
    $35 – Apple Watch Series 3
    $35- AirPods Pro, AirPods with Wireless Charging Case, AirPods with Charging Case
    $70 – iPad mini
    $140 – iPad Pro
    $70 – MacBook Air (Retina, 13-inch, 2020; not M1); in-store only
    $70 – MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2020, Two Thunderbolt 3 ports; not M1); in-store only
    $210 – 16″ MacBook Pro, 21.5″ iMac
    $70 – Apple TV 4K, Apple TV HD,
    $140 – HomePod
    $70 – Beats Studio3 Wireless Headphones, Beats Solo Pro Wireless Headphones, Beats Solo3 Wireless Headphones, Powerbeats Pro, Powerbeats High-Performance Wireless Earphones

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    Quote Originally Posted by schocker View Post
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    Black Friday from apple. New apple tv on the way if the giftcard is so agressive? Might need to get the non 4k for apple fitness.
    Get the 4K. The performance difference is noticeable. I am running both in the house right now.
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    I posted a wtb thread in our marketplace, but just throwing another feeler out here:

    If anyone is replacing an ipad, or wants to get rid of an old one, pm me. Looking to replace an ancient ipad that's too old to run disney+ and is used to distract our toddler for a few minutes here and there as req'd (so obviously looking for one new enough to run all the streaming apps).
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    That really surprises me, clearly the system is capable of rendering additional displays, TB3 is certainly not the bottleneck.

    I actually have no idea why the 1 external monitor is a thing, product of them pushing so hard to get support for the stupid 6k Monitor?
    I have no clue either. Read somewhere that they had to develop their own TB3 chipset and the limitation is there because of time constraints in getting it out before year end, but I'm 100% sure that's just a rumour. I'm sure I'm the exception in running MBA's and entry MBPs with multiple external monitors, so it really doesn't affect that many people, so Apple made the decision to release it this way. We keep forgetting that these are Apple's entry level laptops. It's just that the performance has moved up one wrung of the ladder where all of a sudden people with more specific needs are wanting to get them, which is why the single monitor output is all of a sudden in the spotlight.

    Remember that prior to the M1 the MBA could not drive dual 4K monitors at all without throttling when the text screen saver came on. The MBP could drive it, and be usable, but definitely makes the laptop more laggy and fans going nuts. The laptops that the M1's replaced could not (MBA) or borderline (MBP 2 port) at driving 2 external monitors. Just because kenny and I live with it on the MBP i5 because of hardware budget constraints, true power users wouldn't accept them as usable IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjblair View Post
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    I posted a wtb thread in our marketplace, but just throwing another feeler out here:

    If anyone is replacing and ipad, or wants to get rid of an old one, pm me. Looking to replace an ancient ipad that's too old to run disney+ and is used to distract our toddler for a few minutes here and there as req'd (so obviously looking for one new enough to run all the streaming apps).
    I actually have an ancient one that fits the description. Let me power it up.
    Edit: It doesn't run disney+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    I have no clue either. Read somewhere that they had to develop their own TB3 chipset and the limitation is there because of time constraints in getting it out before year end, but I'm 100% sure that's just a rumour. I'm sure I'm the exception in running MBA's and entry MBPs with multiple external monitors, so it really doesn't affect that many people, so Apple made the decision to release it this way. We keep forgetting that these are Apple's entry level laptops. It's just that the performance has moved up one wrung of the ladder where all of a sudden people with more specific needs are wanting to get them, which is why the single monitor output is all of a sudden in the spotlight.

    Remember that prior to the M1 the MBA could not drive dual 4K monitors at all without throttling when the text screen saver came on. The MBP could drive it, and be usable, but definitely makes the laptop more laggy and fans going nuts. The laptops that the M1's replaced could not (MBA) or borderline (MBP 2 port) at driving 2 external monitors. Just because kenny and I live with it on the MBP i5 because of hardware budget constraints, true power users wouldn't accept them as usable IMO.
    https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/24...rnal-displays/

    Interesting article on the “true” limitations
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/24...rnal-displays/

    Interesting article on the “true” limitations
    It’s still a limitation. We used to use display link on windows laptops to drive large number of displays past the laptops limitations as well. I mean it’s not an issue at home, but it’s an issue for general use docks at the office where anyone can plug into because they all have to be configured properly before it can be used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benyl View Post
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    Get the 4K. The performance difference is noticeable. I am running both in the house right now.
    Thanks, didn't realize they were that much different in specs. It will only be for my basement gym, but it is only $30 more.

    Also waze dashboard support coming soon
    https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/23...-beta-testing/
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    https://9to5mac.com/2020/11/23/ipad-pro-with-oled-2021/

    Rumor: iPad Pro with OLED display coming in the second half of 2021
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    Itís still a limitation. We used to use display link on windows laptops to drive large number of displays past the laptops limitations as well. I mean itís not an issue at home, but itís an issue for general use docks at the office where anyone can plug into because they all have to be configured properly before it can be used.
    They have to have reason for you to buy the 16" MBP with M1X next year.

    https://www.tomsguide.com/news/macbo...over-for-intel

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