I Spy....The New Toyota Supra?

[Darkane]

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It's modern day Toyota. If you're expecting to be blown away, your expectations are clearly way too high.

The RC-F track edition was another example of everyone expecting way more but only got a 5hp rounding error of an upgrade. Classic Toyota.

I was so excited when I heard it would be the most powerful Lexus aside from the LFA.

Then bam, 1, ONE more horsepower than the LC. Hahah.

I was excited for 500hp NA. But, it’s close to 200lbs lighter. Win.

[ThePenIsMightier]

Looks pretty good. A bit heavy on the scoops/slits/slots that probably don't do anything.
$70k makes it an easier choice...
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To probably buy a Lexus.

[Xtrema]

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Looks pretty good. A bit heavy on the scoops/slits/slots that probably don't do anything.

https://jalopnik.com/i-just-dont-bel...ine-1831838527

TLDR: Tada say they come off for "instant race car", journalist: not all of them.

[C4S]

Should just call it Celica .. (it also comes with small 2L engine)

[schocker]

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Direct USD conversion would say $65K for 2L, $70 for 3L and $72K for launch edition.

CAD prices not released yet but a Toyota dealer is already quoting $79K for launch edition.

I think I had based it on the sequoia pricing (1.26). Highest spread looks like 4runner @ 1.32. I suppose being made in EU could change that to be higher potentially.

[Xtrema]

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I think I had based it on the sequoia pricing (1.26). Highest spread looks like 4runner @ 1.32. I suppose being made in EU could change that to be higher potentially.

Don't know if BMW has a say but a fully loaded M440i is around $72K. Even if Supra is a different animal, I doubt it'll be cheaper than that. (or may be by $1K or 2 since Toyota probably won't include 4 years of maintenance).

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Should just call it Celica .. (it also comes with small 2L engine)

Well the Supra will have a 194HP version in Japan as well based on the 2L. Wonder if will be the end of the FT86/BRZ?

[94boosted]

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Don't know if BMW has a say but a fully loaded M440i is around $72K. Even if Supra is a different animal, I doubt it'll be cheaper than that. (or may be by $1K or 2 since Toyota probably won't include 4 years of maintenance).

Wouldn't the M240i be a closer comparison especially in terms of dimensions.

[Xtrema]

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Wouldn't the M240i be a closer comparison especially in terms of dimensions.

It is 1/2 slower to 60 tho and 1 class down.

Heck $72K will also get you M2 Competition or TTRS.

[C4S]

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It is 1/2 slower to 60 tho and 1 class down.

Heck $72K will also get you M2 Competition or TTRS.

More like $72K US .. M2 Comp loaded will be in the $80K cad + tax, TTRS will be in the $85K + tax area with options.

Still, ~ $65K cad for the Supra is cheaper, but by all mean not "great value" ..

[dirtsniffer]

According to Autotrader the supra gr will start at $65k in Canada

[Xtrema]

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According to Autotrader the supra gr will start at $65k in Canada

And depends on who you believe, either 500 or 1000 will come to Canada 1st year.

Given FR-S sold 1500 1st year and this is 2x the price, truth is probably somewhere in the middle of those 2.

[dimi]

The bargain here is the m240i. $49k (zf8) base vs $65k base supra, for an identical powertrain. You can get a manual too.

[BavarianBeast]

The only thing good about this car is the additional tuning support the B58 will get.

[C4S]

How many beyonders have ordered the new Supra?

[heavyD]

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How many beyonders have ordered the new Supra?

I think it would be prudent to wait until there's a version with the higher output B58 that's in the Z4 M40i.

[C4S]

Well.. Toyota.. probably won't...

Toyota style, may be in 5 year, add a track edition with 3 more hp..

[scboss]

Cant wait to see one of these modded

[Xtrema]

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I think it would be prudent to wait until there's a version with the higher output B58 that's in the Z4 M40i.

I doubt BMW will let Toyota have higher output B58 or even the cream of the crop S58.

[BavarianBeast]

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Cant wait to see one of these modded

This will be the best mod for it: https://www.driven.co.nz/news/news/c...-toyota-supra/

[heavyD]

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I doubt BMW will let Toyota have higher output B58 or even the cream of the crop S58.

Not likely to get the S58 but I don't see why BMW would have an issue providing the higher output B58. It's not like the Supra is a direct competitor with the Z4. Ultimately it will come down to if people feel 335 hp is enough and how sales go.