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    Post Zipper Merge, do or don't?

    It's been in news in US and Canada lately.

    When a lane of traffic is closed further ahead, do you merge asap, or wait for the place where the closed lane ends to merge?

    Personally I feel like leaving the one lane empty is poor use of traffic space, so I use the lane until it ends.

    Is that efficient driving, or being a dick?


    Which do you do?
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    Throw the signal light on and hope someone lets me in before i have to come to a stop when the lane ends

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    Again?

    Wasn't this just about beat to death not too long ago here on beyond?
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    Yea there is a thread somewhere about this somewhere. In conclusion, Zipper Merge YES and AB Transport sucks at educating the mass about it.
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    Too many cunts in this city that won't let you over if you try to merge like a zipper. I move over whenever I have a chance while trying to make the most of the merge lane.

    Just got back from 15,000km of driving between Australia and New Zealand and I must say that everyone there for the most part drives very courteously. Easy to merge like a zip there. Very different feel when your on the roads there.

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    I go to the very end. It causes more problems when people try to merge too early and end up stopping or creating backups in their lane before they should be occurring. It's like people stopping at the start of a merge lane instead of speeding up to traffic speed and actually merging. It only causes problems for people that actually know how to drive.

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    Right to (or near) the end. Drives me crazy to see traffic backed up in a single lane, and an entire empty one beside it, when there's a system in place to prevent just that from happening.

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    I get maybe about 10 cars to the end before I merge in. There's always the genius who goes all the way to the end, doesn't know how to merge and sits there full stop waiting for a 5 car length space to open up.

    Back to the through lane, there's always the lady who comes to a full stop waiving 5 cars in


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    All the way to the end is the best way
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    The only correct way is to merge at the end. If you're in the through lane done let anyone in until the end.

    Early mergers are the reason the closing lane moves twice as fast as the the through lanemail.

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    Zipper merge is the correct, and most efficient way to do this. In my experience, it's practiced by less than 5% of drivers in Calgary. We need better education. Signage before constructions zones would be pretty effective, since folks are usually sitting in traffic in that spot, and they might be receptive.
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    Guys how about we switch to a less beat to death topic like lane splitting?

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    Traffic is simple.

    Have enough lanes, forget the bike lane bs, minimize control signs and devices, get rid of arbitrary speed limits.

    We don't have the population for fancy gimmicks.

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    Originally posted by jwslam
    I get maybe about 10 cars to the end before I merge in. There's always the genius who goes all the way to the end, doesn't know how to merge and sits there full stop waiting for a 5 car length space to open up.

    Back to the through lane, there's always the lady who comes to a full stop waiving 5 cars in

    Yeah those are annoying. Another one is Southbound Crowchild exiting onto Eastbound Glenmore. PM rush hour, lane 2 & 3 are backed up to Flanders. I will drive down the #1 lane as far as possible and then zip into an empty spot close to the exit. The best is when the lane just starts to move again, there's always one person not paying attention and leaves a gap.
    HOWEVER...the annoying part is those that try this, can't find a spot and so SIT in the #1 lane waiting to get in, actually stopped and backs up the lane for the through users.

    I take that gamble and the odd time I haven't found a spot. I consider it I've missed my turn off and then have to go down into Lakeview and make a Uturn. I will not stop in that #1 lane. That would be a dick move.

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    Zipper all day, every day!!

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    Yes that is one of the worst examples of terrible driving technique: the merge via stopping with blinker on, waiting for someone to let them into the line of traffic.

    Or when one lane is barely moving, the super slow mow merge, that blocks lane 1 for way longer than required; if they'd only drive until they find a natural break......
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    Originally posted by C_Dave45
    I take that gamble and the odd time I haven't found a spot. I consider it I've missed my turn off and then have to go down into Lakeview and make a Uturn. I will not stop in that #1 lane. That would be a dick move.
    I agree. But 99% of Calgary road users who use this method are dicks and will not miss exits at all costs.

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    Originally posted by jwslam

    I agree. But 99% of Calgary road users who use this method are dicks and will not miss exits at all costs.
    This irritates me to no end. It seems no matter WHERE they are, if they're physically able to drive their car to their turn, they will do it. Even if it means travelling across 4 lanes of Deerfoot and stopping everyone in their way.
    There comes a point when you've missed your turn-off. Suffer the consequences, and take the next exit.

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    Super simple fix, leave a space. If everyone left room there would be no issues. Every issue is avoidable. By following at a way further distance

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    I educated some of my coworkers on zipper merge tonight and I thought they were going to rip my head off.

    They think it's 100% wrong and you should join the thru lane queue way, way before your lane ends. No one should be jumping the queue.

    AB Trans did a release on this too... (May have been posted before.)
    https://www.transportation.alberta.c...ction/DB85.pdf
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