Ontario Police have an internal DUI crisis

[born2workoncars]

60 officers have been disciplined for DUI since 2010.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...mpaign_id=A100

[RealJimmyJames]

60 out of more than 6000 officers. Is that higher than the general population?

I think MADD Canada would say there is a drinking and driving crisis across many demographics, is this one any worse?

[jwslam]

Originally posted by RealJimmyJames
60 out of more than 6000 officers. Is that higher than the general population?

I think MADD Canada would say there is a drinking and driving crisis across many demographics, is this one any worse?

This is a case of "Do as I say, not as I do"
Similar to if you caught a MADD mom for DUI

[dirtsniffer]

well i'd expect it would be difficult to maintain a role as a police officer with a criminal conviction

[Feruk]

Originally posted by RealJimmyJames
60 out of more than 6000 officers. Is that higher than the general population?

I think MADD Canada would say there is a drinking and driving crisis across many demographics, is this one any worse?

I would hope that 1% is high, but I couldn't find a stat. It's not really shocking that cops would have a higher rate of DUI though. I think it's common knowledge that alcoholism runs rampant in police forces, no? Stress of the job and such.

[RealJimmyJames]

And I don't have the numbers in front of me, but they are predominantly male, and we know the all have drivers licenses, and they are between 18 and 59. Sounds like prime DUI demographic to me.

[89s1]

Not to mention the buddy system that will all but ensure they never face consequences if they are caught.

[revelations]

Originally posted by dirtsniffer
well i'd expect it would be difficult to maintain a role as a police officer with a criminal conviction

Not really - many cops carry around common assault convictions.

[J-hop]

Originally posted by revelations


Not really - many cops carry around common assault convictions.

Got any stats on that? Most of the cases I've seen either the cop is fired or resigns.

[phil98z24]

Originally posted by 89s1
Not to mention the buddy system that will all but ensure they never face consequences if they are caught.

Seems to me 60 of them have been caught. Consequences are the responsibility of the judiciary, not other police. And if you're implying that they are caught and not charged, I can tell you from experience that is the exception and not the rule. Policing just isn't like that anymore.

[Minimalist]

Stats are what you make of them and who is selecting the material. DUI is serious and ought to result in one warning, fines, license loss for five years, professional treatment for addiction and the second offense you're tossed from the company. Same for all, even the fry cook at McD's. More concerning than the DUI charges is the misuse of police power in the arrest of these four kids. Things escalate when you are doing the wrong action.

Take the NFL, there are 1,696 players in the league and I know for a fact they are a spotty bunch when one looks at the record. Any spottier than cops or those working in O & G. No idea:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/

[adam c]

I get that being a Police officer is tough, I won't disagree... One of the MANY reasons I don't drink and drive is the fear of losing my license if caught as I would quite possibly lose my job without the ability to drive

[revelations]

Originally posted by J-hop
Got any stats on that? Most of the cases I've seen either the cop is fired or resigns.

No, that was just my experience with the RCMP. They dont usually release internal stats like that. Basically, for senior members (sarg, corporal) it wasn't unusual to have a duty-related common assault conviction, but it wasn't like every cop had one.

Phil are you able to comment how member, duty-related, common assault convictions, are dealt with by CPS?

Common assault is, well, common. Guys on duty don't generally go to beat up people but sometimes accidents happen during the course of a violent arrest (eg. fall) and the non-compliant subjects get hurt in the process and decide to press charges. Its usually the aggravated and assault causing, convictions, that are more serious and usually carry repercussions (eg. active beat down of a subject on the ground)

Some guys (few, thankfully) wear the common assault conviction like a macho badge - not sure how I feel about that.

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by adam c
I get that being a Police officer is tough,

So is walking out the front door.

[adam c]

Originally posted by Seth1968


So is walking out the front door.

So productive comment?

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by adam c


So productive comment?

My bitch is getting fatter by the day.

Not that I know what day it is.

[adam c]

Originally posted by Seth1968


My bitch is getting fatter by the day.

Not that I know what day it is.

if you lived in the US you could be on a reality TV show #my600lbslife or whatever that crap is