3 more weeks until heat becomes a luxury

[M.alex]

Why should you heat your house in Canada .... evil capitalist pig, prepare to get taxed to death in the name of the environment

[A790]

[dirtsniffer]

Don't worry. Only the top 40% of earners will need to pay the tax.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by dirtsniffer
Don't worry. Only the top 40% of earners will need to pay the tax.

Around 3 venti latte/month is my estimate from my energy use.

[BandW]

What, the oil patch hasn't provided enough economic rents over the years to cover the costs? Or was that squandered already?

[kertejud2]

Originally posted by M.alex
Why should you heat your house in Canada .... evil capitalist pig, prepare to get taxed to death in the name of the environment

If you can't afford it then you didn't work hard enough, lazy parasite.

[ZenOps]

Natural gas crazy inexpensive. Must raise price to keep machines employed! Rise of the machines!

Call in Rob Anders to have humans carry natural gas on backs to keep economy going.

[Aleks]

Originally posted by Xtrema


Around 3 venti latte/month is my estimate from my energy use.

Will it not affect other costs like food, plane tickets (I know some will be exempt). City of Calgary will spend about $6MM more per year on fuel.

Carbon tax lasted 2 years in Australia. Let's see how long it lasts here.

[rx7boi]

I had gotten an Enmax email last week about the carbon levy. If I use the same amount as I did last year, it will amount to $96 more.

Of course, we're not expecting a mild winter this year so that is a conservative estimate.

[quick_scar]

Originally posted by Aleks


Will it not affect other costs like food, plane tickets (I know some will be exempt). City of Calgary will spend about $6MM more per year on fuel.

Carbon tax lasted 2 years in Australia. Let's see how long it lasts here.

Will last as long as the NDP are in power

[pheoxs]

Originally posted by quick_scar


Will last as long as the NDP are in power

Probably longer, Liberals want to impose it federally.

[speedog]

Originally posted by rx7boi
I had gotten an Enmax email last week about the carbon levy. If I use the same amount as I did last year, it will amount to $96 more.

Of course, we're not expecting a mild winter this year so that is a conservative estimate.

Yes but depending on your family income, you could get rebates that may negate some of this.

The real cost to the average person will be the increased cost of consumer goods assuming businesses pass their carbon tax costs to consumers through increased product pricing and I haven't heard of any rebates/tax rebates that will counter that.

Yeah, yeah, the NDP speak of this and that that they'll create or supplement in the form of programs or incentives from this newly created source of revenues but will any of us really truly benefit from that?

[ZenOps]

Well...

You could look at carbons as the same overall effect as smoking cigarettes. Which is a stretch, but *it is* there.

I wish people would stop idling their cars for so long in my parking area because I'm sucking down their fumes because my furnace intake at knee level, exhaust level is right there.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by pheoxs


Probably longer, Liberals want to impose it federally.

Depends on what's the "out" clause they bake in for Wall to fall inline.

Originally posted by Aleks


Will it not affect other costs like food, plane tickets (I know some will be exempt). City of Calgary will spend about $6MM more per year on fuel.

Carbon tax lasted 2 years in Australia. Let's see how long it lasts here.

Works out to be ~3% increase in energy cost for me. So I expect everything will cost 5% more as businesses like to pile it on.

The problem is, with Trump threatening to remove Mexicans illegals, grocery will go thru the roof but Carbon Tax will get the blame.

[dirtsniffer]

Originally posted by Xtrema


Around 3 venti latte/month is my estimate from my energy use.

well i've used 2500L of gas this year, so that alone will be an extra $10 per month. then another 10 for ng, dunno about electricity. everything we buy will be impacted.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by dirtsniffer


well i've used 2500L of gas this year, so that alone will be an extra $10 per month. then another 10 for ng, dunno about electricity. everything we buy will be impacted.

If your 2500L is for your work, you will pass on the cost to your customer.

If not, you will start to find more efficient way to conduct business which is the whole point.

Electricity should be ok for now. There is more threat on price with removal of coal than Carbon Tax.

Now that's based on Notely's tax at $20/ton. If liberal wants to do $50/ton, we will be looking at another GST on our hands.

[benyl]

If your home costs too much to heat, change your home!

Isn't that what she said about cars?

[M.alex]

Originally posted by Xtrema


Around 3 venti latte/month is my estimate from my energy use.

And when every retailer out there is done passing through their increased operating costs onto you ... 300 lattes :p

[01RedDX]

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[FraserB]

There should be no rebates associated with this at all. The GHGs produced by "low income" households are no less harmful than those produced by higher income households. Since this tax is apparently about saving the environment and dropping GHG levels, everyone should be paying for their contribution.

But we won't see that since it would hurt the NDP voter base. It might even buy them a few votes when some people see a cheque every year saying it's offsetting the carbon tax. Should be interesting i the first three months when people see everything they buy go up in price, the people protesting the tax now probably won't be considered so crazy then.