RECOVERED: C63 AMG

[gretz]

Originally posted by spikerS


theft is theft. keys in it or not. Its still insured.

MB has already stated this numerous times.

My apologies for not being savvy to the numerous times lol...

I was positive auto insurance wouldn't cover it, I was unaware house insurance would jump in... Thanks for clearing that up for me...

I agree with speedog that it seems "odd"

[Thaco]

Originally posted by rage2

It lets you drive until you shut off the engine (or run out of gas). It just blasts a warning on the dash saying key not detected. It's a liability issue for car manufacturers to just shut down the car because a key isn't detected. Example if key battery dies on the highway and your car shut down, that'd be kinda dangerous.

i figure they could implement something like you said your benz has, you have to be within a couple feet of the button to start it, once its started you can walk away with the key, but then if you hit the brake and it doesn't sense the key within 2 feet, it shuts down. No danger because you cant even move the vehicle.

Or even a second check when you shift or something, there's lots of ways they could do it.

[Thaco]

Originally posted by gretz


My apologies for not being savvy to the numerous times lol...

I was positive auto insurance wouldn't cover it, I was unaware house insurance would jump in... Thanks for clearing that up for me...

I agree with speedog that it seems "odd"

lol, feels so dirty to agree with him eh?

Home insurance covers contents, car insurance covers only the actual car

[nismodrifter]

Just saw this on CBC, posted by CPS

[ganesh]

Originally posted by Thaco


i figure they could implement something like you said your benz has, you have to be within a couple feet of the button to start it, once its started you can walk away with the key, but then if you hit the brake and it doesn't sense the key within 2 feet, it shuts down. No danger because you cant even move the vehicle.

Or even a second check when you shift or something, there's lots of ways they could do it.

I am sure all the smart people who work for the car companies thought about all of this. Because of legal reasons they didn't do it. - Think about this some one in the house is in a medical emergency , car owner left the key fob inside the house half way through as you said you hit the brake and then it kills the engine. Just imagine the out cry and the law suit the manufacturer will face?


When I contacted BMW assist when my vehicle was taken they were tracking it and when I told them why can't you just kill the engine the answer I got was that it needs to be coordinated with law enforcement.

[Thaco]

Originally posted by ganesh


I am sure all the smart people who work for the car companies thought about all of this. Because of legal reasons they didn't do it. - Think about this some one in the house is in a medical emergency , car owner left the key fob inside the house half way through as you said you hit the brake and then it kills the engine. Just imagine the out cry and the law suit the manufacturer will face?


When I contacted BMW assist when my vehicle was taken they were tracking it and when I told them why can't you just kill the engine the answer I got was that it needs to be coordinated with law enforcement.

you have to hit the brake to shift it out of park, or connect it to the e-brake, or shifter or something, hell even the gas pedal, or weight sensor in your drivers seat..... would be no different than leaving the key in the house

also no different than how aftermarket starters work...

[killramos]

Is my bmw the only one in the world that doesn't let me put the car into gear if i remove the fob from the vehicle?

It literally does this to me all the time and its kindof a pain in the ass ( though good for security reasons ).

For example just last week wife was driving because i was drinking, when we got home I got out of car ( with key in my pocket ) so she could snug the passenger side up to the wall. The car wouldn't let her put the car back in drive to pull into garage until I brought the key back to the car.

Maybe because I have comfort access?

So if car is idling in park i don't know how someone could possible take it (without sophisticated tools )if the car won't go into gear...

[ercchry]

Would be interesting to try on mine... but gen back and manual... so hard to say

[ganesh]

Originally posted by killramos
Is my bmw the only one in the world that doesn't let me put the car into gear if i remove the fob from the vehicle?

It literally does this to me all the time and its kindof a pain in the ass ( though good for security reasons ).

For example just last week wife was driving because i was drinking, when we got home I got out of car ( with key in my pocket ) so she could snug the passenger side up to the wall. The car wouldn't let her put the car back in drive to pull into garage until I brought the key back to the car.

Maybe because I have comfort access?

So if car is idling in park i don't know how someone could possible take it (without sophisticated tools )if the car won't go into gear...

All the BMW's I have owned I can drive away with out the key FOB. As rage2 pointed out it will give you the warning.
Yes all of my BMW's have CA as well. Not sure why yours doing this. May be it is a new feature in the newer line up.

[killramos]

Yea mine also wont let me put it into gear if the drivers door is open

I'll give it an experiment this weekend to confirm though because i am very clearly in the minority of this happening.

Just took a gander in the manual and there is nothing about explicitly needing the fob to engage drive but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

[Masked Bandit]

With both the wife's Hyundai and my Challenger, the fob only needs to be present to start the car. Once it's running you can drive away without it.

[A2VR6]

Originally posted by ercchry
Would be interesting to try on mine... but gen back and manual... so hard to say

I can confidently say that you can drive away without the key in that car.

[beyond_ban]

Originally posted by killramos
Yea mine also wont let me put it into gear if the drivers door is open

I'll give it an experiment this weekend to confirm though because i am very clearly in the minority of this happening.

Just took a gander in the manual and there is nothing about explicitly needing the fob to engage drive but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

Yours an auto or three pedal?

[killramos]

^auto

[AllGoNoShow]

Soon everyone will catch up, on my new Ford I have enabled a 'SecureIdle' option that is usually enabled for police ordered trucks. Can start the truck remote or get inside with key fob and traditional push button start, but as soon as the key leaves the door way, the column shift itself will not move until the key fob comes back. Meant for officers leaving the car running but exiting the vehicle.

[Sugarphreak]

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