2017 Extreme Weather Thread

[jwslam]

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when you drive 40 in an 80 or drive super slow up hills and ruin it for everyone else you are the problem.

"No. You're just trying to drive too fast for the road conditions"

[Masked Bandit]

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They do? What about Intact? *coughcough @Masked Bandit coughcough*

Nah, none of the mainstream outfits we deal with have anything of the sort. Personally I don't support the idea either. People that don't adjust their driving behavior regardless of the road conditions are still going to have accidents, with or without winter tires. And in a roundabout way, if having winter tires helps you to not have accidents you already will pay lower insurance by way of having a clean(er) record.

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[firebane]

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Nah, none of the mainstream outfits we deal with have anything of the sort. Personally I don't support the idea either. People that don't adjust their driving behavior regardless of the road conditions are still going to have accidents, with or without winter tires. And in a roundabout way, if having winter tires helps you to not have accidents you already will pay lower insurance buy way of having a clean(er) record.

This guy gets it.

[speedog]

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I also am through intact and him and I checked it out online last night I found a intact page that mentions winter tire benefit to insurance premium but it didnt say if it applied to Alberta or not, it only mentioned BC and Quebec as they are mandatory winter tire provinces.

M&S rated tires qualify as winter tires in BC, yeyahyeah this statement will piss people off but it comes right from th BC government's web site

[speedog]

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Nah, none of the mainstream outfits we deal with have anything of the sort. Personally I don't support the idea either. People that don't adjust their driving behavior regardless of the road conditions are still going to have accidents, with or without winter tires. And in a roundabout way, if having winter tires helps you to not have accidents you already will pay lower insurance buy way of having a clean(er) record.

Bang on, the number of people I see stuck on the road spinning their winter tires helplessly is amazing. It is interesting to see you indicate that people should adjust their driving behaviour based upon road conditions because there are a number of people in this thread who make it sound like they do not have to adjust their driving behaviour based upon road conditions.

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If I wasn't driving the kids, I was seriously thinking of making a video of me stopping to pretend to help people that are stuck on hills, video their tires, hop in my car and just start and stop going up a hill to troll them.

[89coupe]

Winter tires should be mandatory on all vehicles in Alberta. If you can’t afford it, you shouldn’t be on the road. If you are stupid enough to think winter tires don’t improve the vehicles handling capabilities in winter conditions then you shouldn’t be allowed to drive period.

[speedog]

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If I wasn't driving the kids, I was seriously thinking of making a video of me stopping to pretend to help people that are stuck on hills, video their tires, hop in my car and just start and stop going up a hill to troll them.

And if they are stuck and have winter tires?

[b_t]

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Police blocked south bound Shag at Country Hills. 1/2 the traffic went west bound and got stuck on that hill anyway.

They didn't block east bound traffic to get on Shag. Me and probably 20 others actually got on it but at least 12 got stuck going uphill, probably had shit tires. 400ft in I had my own private road with me only on it blasting up hill at 80kph.

it was totally blocked when I left this morning... the WB Country Hills hill was a disaster. took forever to get around it.

so many of these drivers, winter tires wouldn't help them at all. fucking morons. as soon as their tires spin a little, they just floor it so they spin even faster. melt all the snow into ice, and make nice slick, icy tracks up the hills.. or at least part of the way up them. there were people who had just given up on going up the hills and were just sitting in the middle of the road with their hazards on, FFS. or some other idiot who was all over 1.5 lanes of traffic, gas pedal matted, sawing on the wheel because his tires had no traction left for steering

fuck these people. Country Hills drivers are the absolute worst.. there are so many intersections here where we should be allowed to turn left on green, but the city probably doesn't trust these tards to do anything properly so we have to sit at reds for turning all the time. they should just give up on letting these people drive their own cars and make this a mandatory bus-only zone.

[asp integra]

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"No. You're just trying to drive too fast for the road conditions"

hahah not at all. I'm saying buy some damn winter tires and learn how to drive in the conditions. There is no excuse for someone doing 40 on a major road with no one in front of them. Get the hell off the roads if you are not comfortable driving in snow.

[Sentry]

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if i wasn't driving the kids, i was seriously thinking of making a video of me stopping to pretend to help people that are stuck on hills, video their tires, hop in my car and just start and stop going up a hill to troll them.

That would be hilarious

[Kloubek]

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This guy gets it.

...he should, considering his occupation.

You know what guys - I'm driving my Jeep GC for the winter. It's a POS with 240k and a wheel sensor is out so I've lost all driver aids. Somehow AWD is still working though, and I have winter tires. I couldn't get the damn thing to slip or slide at all today unless it was intentional. This thing is a beast even in "reduced" mode right now, and although I know the vehicle is generally good in the winter weather I really don't think it's that bad out there at all. It's just those driving too slow because they either lack confidence or winter tires that are the problem.

[jwslam]

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hahah not at all. I'm saying buy some damn winter tires and learn how to drive in the conditions. There is no excuse for someone doing 40 on a major road with no one in front of them. Get the hell off the roads if you are not comfortable driving in snow.

You missed my sarcasm. I'm talking in the voice of the guy going 40 in an 80, calling you the bad driver

[colinxx235]

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Is anyone looking outside this morning and thinking it dumped alot of snow last night - I probably had 5 cm on my drive way yesterday night and im up in aspen - this morning atleast 15cm on the driveway and more blowing snow accumulation.

I live in Aspen also. I shovelled my driverway ~8pm last night and again at 730am today. There was a shit ton of snow on my driveway and it was wet/heavy as fuck.
It was a major bitch getting just down 85th street this morning because of this... *img*unfortunately the iphone was taking live photos and didn't notice (stupid update changed settings) but yes... it made contact with the pole the the taurus was smashed into the concrete barriers

[HiTempguy1]

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Bang on, the number of people I see stuck on the road spinning their winter tires helplessly is amazing. It is interesting to see you indicate that people should adjust their driving behaviour based upon road conditions because there are a number of people in this thread who make it sound like they do not have to adjust their driving behaviour based upon road conditions.

First, please provide proof of these people being "stuck" with winter tires. Second, not all "winter" tires are "winter" tires, many are high-performance ice tires (garbage) or "4 season" tires (also garbage). Third, what do you mean by "stuck"; there is a difference between somebody not being able to drive down the road, and having driven into the ditch and being "stuck". If these conditions cause you to get stuck ON THE ROAD, you should have your licence taken away.

Finally, I drive faster in the winter, so I guess I adjust my driving behaviour, but not in the way you think

[speedog]

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...he should, considering his occupation.

You know what guys - I'm driving my Jeep GC for the winter. It's a POS with 240k and a wheel sensor is out so I've lost all driver aids. Somehow AWD is still working though, and I have winter tires. I couldn't get the damn thing to slip or slide at all today unless it was intentional. This thing is a beast even in "reduced" mode right now, and although I know the vehicle is generally good in the winter weather I really don't think it's that bad out there at all. It's just those driving too slow because they either lack confidence and/or winter tires that are the problem.

Fixed that for you because winter tires for some drivers still will not make them a more competent driver in icy/snowy conditions. Case in point, Wednesday night I was behind these two young guys in their VW Golf, they were jacking around on the snow covered streets a few blocks from my house and they came to a T-intersection and slid head on into the curb in front of them. I slowed as they were having difficulty backing away from the curb, rolled down my window to see if they needed assistance and after hearing the driver exclaim he has new winter tires and couldn't understand why this was happening I decided to go on my merry way, on my all M&S tires I might add. If you don't know how to drive in inclement road conditions then winter tires are not going to miraculously going to make you a driver with better skills.

[suntan]

Bottlenecked this morning from drivers going 40 on Crowchild. Takes a while to get around them. Eventually you end up in an empty stretch with yourself and three other cars until you hit 24th.

[flipstah]

Parking lot drifting should be part of GDL testing. Winning.

[speedog]

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First, please provide proof of these people being "stuck" with winter tires. Second, not all "winter" tires are "winter" tires, many are high-performance ice tires (garbage) or "4 season" tires (also garbage). Third, what do you mean by "stuck"; there is a difference between somebody not being able to drive down the road, and having driven into the ditch and being "stuck". If these conditions cause you to get stuck ON THE ROAD, you should have your licence taken away.

Finally, I drive faster in the winter, so I guess I adjust my driving behaviour, but not in the way you think

Stuck on pavement in a driving lane, spinning their winter tires helplessly on a slight incline. Winter tires because I got out and offered assistance and looked at their tires - one memorable case was in my own community two winters ago where a younger guy couldn't get his VW Jetta out of the alley where he had got it stuck trying to get into his garage. I needed to go down that alley and offered to get his car out, got in and did the whole rock back and forth thing and a few other things and backed it out to the street (winter tires on it) - I got back in my truck on M&S tires and drove down the alley with ease.

Now I have stated in the past that I do fully recognize that winter tires are a better choice in inclement winter conditions but winter tires do not make a driver better all of a sudden if they were a shitty driver to begin with. For myself though, I've done winters on M&S for all my 4+ decades of driving and have only had one winter time accident and that was strictly due to hitting the ditch to avoid t-boning a semi/trailer that had spun out and blocked all of the highway in front of me (freezing rain conditions that left the highway with curling ice on it, probably shouldn't have taken gravel roads instead). My kids run winters and good for them but I know for my purposes M&S seem to work plenty fine, yeah yeah I know all of the reasons of why not too but have not once felt like I could not get where I needed to in my vehicles and I don't hold up others as well - when I can drive up snow covered streets on M&S past stuck people on winters, something is amiss, no?

[revelations]

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Parking lot drifting should be part of GDL testing. Winning.

It is in many other Nordic countries (new driver, winter and summer examination), but they are also socialist paradises.

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when I can drive up snow covered streets on M&S past stuck people on winters, something is amiss, no?

I used to have a set Continental Extremewintercontact studless tires and they were a JOKE on anything that was compact snow or ice. In my Civic, it was essentially impossible to get moving again in a slight incline at intersections, even without spinning. In retrospect, I should have tried the "manual locking" diff method of tapping brakes while gently on the gas.

Now I have studded tires and its insane how much better it is.