Re Cannabis. Wow things are tight.

[J-hop]

Originally posted by Gestalt


It specifically states reserchers. In case you don't know, a researcher and physician is not the same thing.

Despite some promising preclinical findings, researchers have not found any meaningful cannabis benefits for people with Parkinson's.

Researchers issue caution for people with PD who use cannabis because of its effect on thinking. Many people with Parkinson's experience impairment of the executive function —

Have you even bothered to look up potential side effects of Levodopa?

There are a lot more common side effects than cannabis plus potential severe side effects such as
-mental/mood changes (e.g., confusion, depression, hallucinations, thoughts of suicide)
-unusual strong urges (such as increased gambling, increased sexual urges)

(aka impairment of executive functions)

So I don't know if you are just not doing your research or ignoring things purposely

[Majestic12]

Originally posted by Gestalt
medical evidence. Like a reserach article from medical people that i posted. Its not typically found on youtube. But it is full of sasquatch and ufo vidoes.

Link

[Gestalt]

Originally posted by 01RedDX
Ahem... http://www.marketwired.com/press-rel...er-2146639.htm

Is that medicine, or marketing? At least they linked some stuff to look at.

[Gestalt]

Originally posted by Majestic12


Link

quickly read the chapter highlights. Largely what I am saying.

Thank-You

[A790]

Originally posted by Gestalt
medical evidence. Like a reserach article from medical people that i posted. Its not typically found on youtube. But it is full of sasquatch and ufo vidoes.

On seizures:

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/conten...a-43da4a2267ec

On potential applications for cancer:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18025276

On anxiety:

http://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-a...a-and-the-mind

On Alzheimer's:

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/...nalCode=mpohbp

On MS:

http://www.cmaj.ca/content/early/2012/05/14/cmaj.110837

On hep C:

http://journals.lww.com/eurojgh/page...&type=abstract

On IBS:

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/conten...d-ff8d46fca175

Things I found in just a few minutes of searching.

Now, let me clear so you don't find a way to invalidate all of these studies: I am not suggesting that marijuana is some wonder-drug or that it has no negatives. Not at all what I'm suggesting.

However, it is quite clear that it does indeed have medical applications.

EDIT: One more, the US National Department of Drug Abuse (https://www.drugabuse.gov/publicatio...juana-medicine)

"THC increases appetite and reduces nausea. The FDA-approved THC-based medications are used for these purposes. THC may also decrease pain, inflammation (swelling and redness), and muscle control problems.

CBD is a cannabinoid that does not affect the mind or behavior. It may be useful in reducing pain and inflammation, controlling epileptic seizures, and possibly even treating mental illness and addictions."

Emphasis mine. Further studies will continue to grow our medical understanding of its applications.

[msommers]

Originally posted by Gestalt


Status makes the research more paper work intense, but completely possible. Virtually nothing is off limits for real research.

Yikes. You have no idea what ethics approval is.

[Gestalt]

Originally posted by A790

On seizures:

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/conten...a-43da4a2267ec

On potential applications for cancer:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18025276

On anxiety:

http://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-a...a-and-the-mind

On Alzheimer's:

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/...nalCode=mpohbp

On MS:

http://www.cmaj.ca/content/early/2012/05/14/cmaj.110837

On hep C:

http://journals.lww.com/eurojgh/page...;type=abstract

On IBS:

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/conten...d-ff8d46fca175

Things I found in just a few minutes of searching.

Now, let me clear so you don't find a way to invalidate all of these studies: I am not suggesting that marijuana is some wonder-drug or that it has no negatives. Not at all what I'm suggesting.

However, it is quite clear that it does indeed have medical applications.

EDIT: One more, the US National Department of Drug Abuse (https://www.drugabuse.gov/publicatio...juana-medicine)

Emphasis mine. Further studies will continue to grow our medical understanding of its applications.

You are only confirming my claims. Most those studies are of the CBD component exclusively, in very high doses. Administered orally or by injection.

For example, the equivalent daily dose of CBD used in some of those studies would require vaporizing 20+ grams per day of marijuana.

Except, real medicine can put it in a pill, and give you no noticeable high or effect.

Go ahead and vape. Enjoy. But it's not medicine.

[A790]

Originally posted by Gestalt


You are only confirming my claims. Most those studies are of the CBD component exclusively, in very high doses. Administered orally or by injection.

For example, the equivalent daily dose of CBD used in some of those studies would require vaporizing 20+ grams per day of marijuana.

Except, real medicine can put it in a pill, and give you no noticeable high or effect.

Go ahead and vape. Enjoy. But it's not medicine.

It's like you didn't even read them.

Furthermore, the separation between THC and CBD has been discussed multiple times in this thread. I'm not sure how you missed that.

And that's why you're called a troll, troll.

[J-hop]

Originally posted by Gestalt


You are only confirming my claims. Most those studies are of the CBD component exclusively, in very high doses. Administered orally or by injection.

For example, the equivalent daily dose of CBD used in some of those studies would require vaporizing 20+ grams per day of marijuana.

Except, real medicine can put it in a pill, and give you no noticeable high or effect.

Go ahead and vape. Enjoy. But it's not medicine.

Ok answer this already. Are you claiming oxy doesn't get you high?

[Gestalt]

Originally posted by A790

It's like you didn't even read them.

Furthermore, the separation between THC and CBD has been discussed multiple times in this thread. I'm not sure how you missed that.

And that's why you're called a troll, troll.

You didn't read them. One of them is clearly against Marijuana use. You missed it.

My statement is supported by them. Not disputed with what you posted.

Just because you or other guys that don't understand something have said it in this thread, is not the proof I am looking for.

[blubs]

Jesus... Are you actually this stupid? Like read the damn research before spouting off.

There's literally thousands of people who have posted life changing results using medical marijuana after trying everything else available without any success... How can you be against someone getting a second chance at life?

[C_Dave45]

Originally posted by A790
Hey Dave, I'll head to bongs and such and grab one for you tomorrow. Meet me tomorrow eve/Saturday am?

Thanks Cam. The wife and I are gonna go out tomorrow and do some shopping and make a fun day of it. We need a different styled bong anyways, (ours has a slanted bowl) so thought we'd get a complete new set up. New stuff, some Mexican food and walk around the Festival of Light displays. A rare day out of the house for her.

I've been looking into the quartz domeless. I like that fact they're not supposed to break, as opposed to the ceramics, and have a cleaner taste than the titanium.

Funny enough it was B&S that turned me away. At least now I know what NOT to say.

[Sugarphreak]

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[J-hop]

Sugarphreak, do you drink?

If you do then all of what you are saying looks hypocritical at best

Still waiting on gestalt to state his position on opiates like oxy. Seems to be living in an alternate reality.

[Sugarphreak]

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[msommers]

I've posted this before but I think it's worthwhile posting again - a very worthwhile and easy read.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ma...arch-legality/

[max_boost]

Originally posted by J-hop


Ok answer this already. Are you claiming oxy doesn't get you high?

oh man it's so good lol

[J-hop]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


Why? I fully support the use of mj for recreational use?

I suppose if I was treating my ailments with booze I'd be a hypocrite, haha. Hang on... shit, I use Alcohol to clean cuts

You keep talking about how bad the lung damage is from marijuana and that pot smoking needs to be reformed. Yet alcohol abuse kills about 88, 000 per year in the US.

You are acting like marijuana is horrible yet partake in something that has mountains of evidence showing how horribly detrimental it is to your wellbeing.

You are barking up the wrong tree.......,

[cancer man]

I'll take a cold beer over a hoot.

[bourge73]

New favourite for me are all the edibles now available. Honey,butter,brownies all mixed with extract and so good, Iam still old school though and love the old one hitter lol
Oh and here we go again another detailed thread about Booze vs Weed ...