Calgary mayoral election October 16, 2017

[speedog]

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I'm going to vote for whoever will move the Rocky Mountains over 10 feet west so that Calgary gets a bit more sunlight and the jobs it will create.

Just move to the NE?

[RealJimmyJames]

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Just move to the NE?

Be serious

[speedog]

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Be serious

Easier than moving mountains, no?

[suntan]

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100% fine with the city spending whatever it takes to restore 12th Ave. The disruptions to traffic are so enormous that any cost will pale in comparison. I don't imagine it will cost more to take down than to put up, but who knows.

I've always been supportive of higher transit fees in return for decent service (i.e. at the same level of other modern cities). Problem is they keep raising the fees with no positive changes to service quality. A $200 transit pass would be completely fine with me if it was a) reliable and b) a preferred way to get around, or a reasonable alternative to driving. It is about as far from either of those two things as I have ever seen in any city at the moment, with no noticeable improvements to service quality or reliability since I started using transit 20+ years ago. If people actually wanted to use transit, they might even be able to lower transit pass costs because of all the additional riders buying passes.

Art - fair enough, I am probably SOL on that one haha

I find that I don't care about too many things regarding the way the city is run, but the things I do I feel strongly about, so that usually decides my vote.

The trains run way more frequently. 20 years ago during rush hour the train arrived every 7 minutes. Now sometimes they arrive almost immediately one after another.

Trains also now get first priority on lights, so plowing through that horrible downtown section takes about five minutes less than it used to.

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Easier than moving mountains, no?

Why are you against real jobs for real people?

[speedog]

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Why are you against real jobs for real people?

Hire movers when moving to the NE? Those would be real jobs, no?

Shit, just vote Larry in - he'd probably take your proposal and run with it.

[J-hop]

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[ZenOps]

Oddly enough, I kind of like the bike lanes even though I don't use a bicycle. Been doing a ton more pedestrian walking (gotta catch 'em all) and having the buffer zone between car traffic is pleasing if only for the idea that I'm not sucking in anywhere near as much exhaust as I normally would.

The timing was not all that bad if you ask me.

[HuMz]

Looks like it will be a close race between Smith and Nenshi.

[rage2]

I’m expecting Nenshi to win by a landslide but I’m also excited to see if Smith can pull off an unexpected silent majority trump style upset. One thing I’ve noticed is that even with the Nensheep on full blast on social media, there’s a lot of Nenshi hate out there this time around that’s not being reported or taken seriously. I’ve also been surprised at several former Nenshi diehards that I know deciding not to vote Nenshi this time around.

[kertejud2]

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I guess the precedent has been set, if you want to run your mouth when looking for a soapbox, just fill out your candidate papers and have at it... Sorry I should change that, if you are an incumbent candidate...

Yes, the precedent has been set that they mayor can be indemnified. Real groundbreaker.

He was mayor up until a new one would have been elected (it isn't like parliament or the legislature where everybody is fired when an election is called), and then continued to be mayor after he won re-election.

The news back then said Council voted that Nenshi was to repay the money and he was in agreement..

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...emma-1.3568292

"I wasn't super excited about his insistence that... he be made to pay it back, but he insisted," said Carra.

[J-hop]

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Looks like it will be a close race between Smith and Nenshi.

Bill seems alright but he keeps clinging to the lie/misrepresentation that since 2011 our property taxes have gone up 51% which several people have shown is just flat out false. I wonder how much more of his platform is BS

[rage2]

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Bill seems alright but he keeps clinging to the lie/misrepresentation that since 2011 our property taxes have gone up 51% which several people have shown is just flat out false. I wonder how much more of his platform is BS

The people that actually understands how our property taxes work is a small minority. He might be full of shit, but many will still believe him.

[J-hop]

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The people that actually understands how our property taxes work is a small minority. He might be full of shit, but many will still believe him.

This is true.

Honestly I wish what we did is hold a "debate" night, where basically you'd have a panel of experts and their job was to pick apart candidates platforms and statements they've made. The candidates wouldn't be allowed to address each other or talk about each other and would simply have to defend their platform.

I don't understand why we don't do that in politics. Every grad student has to do that, it's called defending their thesis. Instead we all give into the show of it (which I guess Is actually pretty tame in municipal elections) and are swayed mostly by who bullshits/bends the truth better.

[suntan]

The mill rate has gone up over the years so I don't know what you guys are talking about. Also via the math of compounding little yearly increases add up.

Shockingly Smith has a substantial lead over Nenshi.

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...municipal-vote

[J-hop]

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The mill rate has gone up over the years so I don't know what you guys are talking about. Also via the math of compounding little yearly increases add up.

Shockingly Smith has a substantial lead over Nenshi.

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...municipal-vote

Lol, do the math and see if you can come up with the 51 percent smith claims. The answer is you can't

[speedog]

At the end of the day it comes down to how much money is coming out of people's pockets for their property tax payment. People don't really care about mill rates or the provincial portion - just that dollar amount they lay out and I know looking at our home that there certainly hasn't been anything near to a 51% increase in our monthly payment as some are claiming.

[suntan]

Mine’s gone up 62%.

[speedog]

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The mill rate has gone up over the years so I don't know what you guys are talking about. Also via the math of compounding little yearly increases add up.

Shockingly Smith has a substantial lead over Nenshi.

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...municipal-vote

Yeah, we've seen how wildly accurate polls have been in the last two general Alberta elections.

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Mine’s gone up 62%.

So for example, $200 to $324?

[J-hop]

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At the end of the day it comes down to how much money is coming out of people's pockets for their property tax payment. People don't really care about mill rates or the provincial portion - just that dollar amount they lay out and I know looking at our home that there certainly hasn't been anything near to a 51% increase in our monthly payment as some are claiming.

Exactly. But people will twist the numbers how they please.



And poles, I have to wonder where the pole information comes from. Calgary isn't very big in terms of number of eligible voters yet I have never participated or known of anyone that has ever participated in a pole hahaha

[suntan]

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Yeah, we've seen how wildly accurate polls have been in the last two general Alberta elections.

Ah, the things you don't know. You're referring to the PC win? There was a poll done on the Friday before the voting day (Monday that time). It had the PCs out with a lead. I was at Sandra Jansen's house on the Saturday, and they all had a huge shit eating grins.

The NDP win was a surprise? Were you comatose at the time? They had a substantial lead right up to election day.

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So for example, $200 to $324?

$185 to $300, yes.