Alberta Catholic high school under fire for pro-life presentation comparing abortion

[Seth1968]

http://www.newstalk770.com/2017/04/1...-to-holocaust/

So they consider it murder. Ok fine.

The irony is, these people believe in and worship an invisible man (mental disorder), and this invisible man is by far the most prolific serial MURDERER of all time

[HiTempguy1]

Its actually pretty reasonable. Many people cite medical issues and abnormalities as reasons for getting abortions

Sure sucks when people are called out on it and are actually required to confront the shitty things they do.

Maybe AIM should get the gay porn off their grade school websites before worrying about a differing opinion to theirs being taught. They keep citing "evidence based decisions and teaching", what that has to do with abortion I have no idea, but nothing they said was factually incorrect. But it certainly goes against the current liberal dogma to completely silence dissent.

Just wait, we can have grade school kids being taught how to have proper anal sex like they do in Ontario

[Seth1968]

Sure, they can compare it to anything they want. I was just pointing out their laughable hypocrisy.

[Brent.ff]

I'm more surprised that anyone would think differently that this would happen at a Catholic school. I went to a catholic school as a kid and this wouldn't have been an unheardof comparison

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by Brent.ff
I'm more surprised that anyone would think differently that this would happen at a Catholic school. I went to a catholic school as a kid and this wouldn't have been an unheardof comparison

You're surprised at an outcome that believes in a invisible friend? That's not going to go well.

I'm looking at you Dauner.

[duaner]

Originally posted by Seth1968

I'm looking at you Dauner.

I'm flattered.

Originally posted by Seth1968
The irony is, these people believe in and worship an invisible man (mental disorder)

Straw man.

Originally posted by Seth1968
and this invisible man is by far the most prolific serial MURDERER of all time

How so?

As to the discussion: http://www.str.org/quickthoughts/is-...t#.WO1XX4WcHoo

[Feruk]

To compare abortion to the holocaust is just laughable. If a person believes the systematic planned extermination of a specific race of people (for no logical reason) compares in ANY way to random terminations of unwanted babies, that person is an idiot who needs to research the Holocaust some more.

Originally posted by HiTempguy1
Sure sucks when people are called out on it and are actually required to confront the shitty things they do.

Please explain how abortion is a "shitty thing to do." Isn't 7 billion people enough? We spend so much time worrying about some confused sense of human morality and zero time thinking of the impact every additional person has on the ecosystem we live in.

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by Feruk

Please explain how abortion is a "shitty thing to do." Isn't 7 billion people enough? We spend so much time worrying about some confused sense of human morality and zero time thinking of the impact every additional person has on the ecosystem we live in.

It doesn't, you are wrong, and your moral relativism is showing

[A790]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1


It doesn't, you are wrong, and your moral relativism is showing

LOL Do you even try anymore dude? At least you used to be a quality troll.

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by duaner

I'm flattered.


Straw man.

In other words, you've got nothing.

Let's try again:

1) If a child believes in an invisible friend, they do so as a source of comfort. The child eventually grows out of it. You haven't.

2) To add insult to injury, your invisible friend is an egotistical, psychotic murderer. How do you justify that? How also do you justify that his followers continuously cause both psychological and physical suffering?

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by Feruk
We spend so much time worrying about some confused sense of human morality

I've said the same many times.

The main cause of this? Oh look, there's that religion thingy again.

[Hallowed_point]

Originally posted by Seth1968
I've said the same many times.

The main cause of this? Oh look, there's that religion thingy again.

[Seth1968]

When a child invents an invisible friend we know it's just their imagination. But a religious person would very well shun the kids friend, yet force their invisible friend on the kid. This is is done under the threat of eternal suffering. It's not only idiocy, but also child psychological abuse. Yet, it's accepted

Religion wants people to suffer. That's why they oppose abortion, gay rights, woman rights, contraception, dying with dignity, etc, etc.

[duaner]

Originally posted by Feruk

Please explain how abortion is a "shitty thing to do." Isn't 7 billion people enough? We spend so much time worrying about some confused sense of human morality and zero time thinking of the impact every additional person has on the ecosystem we live in.

What do you mean by "some confused sense of morality"?

There are a few things wrong with your argument. First, if abortion is the taking of an innocent human life, precisely how does any supposed negative impact (implied) on the ecosystem justify it? Second, your argument presupposes that the unborn are not full members of the human race, which is to beg the question. Third, you are also presupposing that every additional person will have a negative impact on the ecosystem. How do you know that is actually the case? Fourth, if we carry your argument to its logical conclusion, we should be aborting every single unborn child. Or one could also argue that everyone who is having a negative impact on the ecosystem, however that is subjectively defined, should be killed.

[duaner]

Originally posted by Seth1968

In other words, you've got nothing.

Let's try again:

1) If a child believes in an invisible friend, they do so as a source of comfort. The child eventually grows out of it. You haven't.

Kids may make-up an invisible friend for any number of reasons. They grow out of it because they know they made them up. This is not at all the case with belief in the Christian God, hence why your argument is a straw man.

Originally posted by Seth1968
2) To add insult to injury, your invisible friend is an egotistical, psychotic murderer. How do you justify that?

You didn't even answer my question, which suggests you are the one who has nothing. Let's try again:

You stated: "and this invisible man is by far the most prolific serial MURDERER of all time "

I asked: "How so?"

And now I also ask how is God egotistical? How is he psychotic?

Originally posted by Seth1968
How also do you justify that his followers continuously cause both psychological and physical suffering?

In what way?

[mazdavirgin]

Originally posted by Seth1968
Religion wants people to suffer. That's why they oppose abortion, gay rights, woman rights, contraception, dying with dignity, etc, etc.

You're like the poster child for illogical atheist militancy.

You can argue the ethics of many of those points without involving god and simply using reason.

Abortion might be problematic if for example you consider a child to be a person once the umbilical cord is cut but seconds prior to that it's a fetus with no rights. That's hilariously arbitrary and not based on any semblance of fact or logic. Preterm babies can survive after 4 months yet you can abort in theory all the way up to delivery. Do I believe we should ban abortions? No but it's the height of idiocy to be somehow outraged that people have issues with this wanton destruction of human life.

Dying with dignity is the same kind of can of worms. How do you decide if someone has the right mind frame to make that decision or the capability? We treat people with mental illness and discourage suicide but now we want to allow suicide? I mean yeah you can certainly make the argument that this is bordering on if not full on eugenics. Why shouldn't I have the right to use my power of attorny put down grandma whose gone senile so I can inherit earlier?

Trying to pretend we shouldn't have these discussions because someone might have their PC feelings hurt is just stupid. These societal issues are not black and white. They don't even have anything to do with religion. There's quite simple ethical issues independent of anything else involved.

In short stop making atheist look like morons...

[duaner]

Originally posted by Seth1968

Religion wants people to suffer.

Maybe some religions want people to suffer, not Christianity.

Originally posted by Seth1968
That's why they oppose abortion, gay rights, woman rights, contraception, dying with dignity, etc, etc.

The main problem with your argument here is that there most certainly are non-religious people who oppose such things. Not to mention not all religious people oppose all of those things. You make a lot of generalizations with no support. It's almost like you've never actually done any study yourself but have read a book or two or just read atheist arguments on the Internet.

Most Christians oppose abortion because it is the unjustified taking of a human life, which is why some non-religious people also oppose it. This is something the law calls murder.

Most Christians oppose "dying with dignity" (not sure when suicide became dignified) on the same grounds as abortion--the sanctity of human life.

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by mazdavirgin


You're like the poster child for illogical atheist militancy.

You can argue the ethics of many of those points without involving god and simply using reason.

Abortion might be problematic if for example you consider a child to be a person once the umbilical cord is cut but seconds prior to that it's a fetus with no rights. That's hilariously arbitrary and not based on any semblance of fact or logic. Preterm babies can survive after 4 months yet you can abort in theory all the way up to delivery. Do I believe we should ban abortions? No but it's the height of idiocy to be somehow outraged that people have issues with this wanton destruction of human life.

Dying with dignity is the same kind of can of worms. How do you decide if someone has the right mind frame to make that decision or the capability? We treat people with mental illness and discourage suicide but now we want to allow suicide? I mean yeah you can certainly make the argument that this is bordering on if not full on eugenics. Why shouldn't I have the right to use my power of attorny put down grandma whose gone senile so I can inherit earlier?

I never claimed a position on abortion.

As far as dying with dignity goes, the bottom line is that it's a basic human right for one to be able to choose their own fate. When an animal is suffering, we "put it down" out of compassion. But if a human is in agony and begging for dying with dignity, the self righteous oppose it.

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by duaner

Kids may make-up an invisible friend for any number of reasons. They grow out of it because they know they made them up. This is not at all the case with belief in the Christian God, hence why your argument is a straw man.


You didn't even answer my question, which suggests you are the one who has nothing. Let's try again:

You stated: "and this invisible man is by far the most prolific serial MURDERER of all time "

I asked: "How so?"

And now I also ask how is God egotistical? How is he psychotic?


In what way?

Many adults who were forced into theism realize there is no evidence of a god and become atheists or agnostics.

How is the Christian God not egotistical, psychotic, and a mass murderer? Seriously?

[JRSC00LUDE]

Originally posted by duaner
Maybe some religions want people to suffer, not Christianity.

This is very likely the most ridiculous post on the Internet.

I think duaner is Sean Spicer IRL.