Hell ya...
The Glenmore to Deerfoot South.. I was like... is this road getting wider..?
The city has a page that talks about permeable pavement.Originally posted by HiTempguy1
The fact is, roads can be built that withstand frost heaving and don't fall apart in two years. We don't because our politicians are corrupt and only do what is necessary for their self interests
http://www.calgary.ca/UEP/Water/Page...-pavement.aspx
The problem is that storm water control gets pretty elaborate and expensive with this setup. There would be no storm drains, and drainage has to be handled down the entire length of road. The shit is magic though, it actually improves safety in wet/snow conditions because water doesn't stay on the asphalt.
Imagine all that drainage work down the entire length of deerfoot. Then there's the load factor, it's just not designed for any large loads which requires much shorter repaving durations. There's a reason why nobody does this.
Originally posted by SEANBANERJEE
I have gone above and beyond what I should rightfully have to do to protect my good name
No, Im referencing standard road building practices in general. There is a significant difference between a shit job and a good job with road base prep, and it has a substantial affect on road longevity.
By going with the lowest bidder, we get the poor prep and therefore shit roads that we do.
That doesnt mean the road wont heave at all, that is pretty difficult to deal with. But its not magic that some roads last longer than others.
I imagine that a priority of paving is to get it done as quick as possible so traffic is not overly inconvenienced for a long period of time.Originally posted by HiTempguy1
No, Im referencing standard road building practices in general. There is a significant difference between a shit job and a good job with road base prep, and it has a substantial affect on road longevity.
By going with the lowest bidder, we get the poor prep and therefore shit roads that we do.
That doesnt mean the road wont heave at all, that is pretty difficult to deal with. But its not magic that some roads last longer than others.
If anyone has gone back and forth between Calgary and Edmonton over the years would know Edmonton roads have always been worse. This spring though it feels like driving around in Edmonton.
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Then there is Winnpeg roads .....
I haven't noticed anything worse than before.
There is a bad spot in the middle lane on WB Crow after Sarcee. It's there every year.
There was a bumpy spot on EB Crow by Shag before but it seems to be fine this year.
Compare to Montreal or Winnipeg roads, we have race track condition here.
Originally posted by Hallowed_point
Word...catch some air
I don't know or can speak to either cities' decision making process. Either way, its frigging awful.Originally posted by heavyD
I imagine that a priority of paving is to get it done as quick as possible so traffic is not overly inconvenienced for a long period of time.
If anyone has gone back and forth between Calgary and Edmonton over the years would know Edmonton roads have always been worse. This spring though it feels like driving around in Edmonton.
What I do know is that clearly there are certain companies that roads hold up better than other companies
Deerfoot under stoney in the deep South is so bad the reduced the speed limit
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I don't know if it's that simple. The max frost depth is something like 7ft in Calgary. It's a huge undertaking to make the roads frost resistant. I remember they did this on the street I grew up on due to the massive heaves that would regularly destroy the street. I believe it was over a month we couldn't use the street.Originally posted by HiTempguy1
I don't know or can speak to either cities' decision making process. Either way, its frigging awful.
What I do know is that clearly there are certain companies that roads hold up better than other companies
There are 16,000kms of paved roadway in Calgary. With limited budget you probably end up with the decision each year of doing a quick fix on a large area or a full fix on a very small area.
People always talk about how simple it is to run a city
I just submitted one through 311 online, we'll see how fast that goes nowhere. My poor car is getting worn down from off-roading to workOriginally posted by rx7boi
Is there a way to call these in or don't bother at all because the city doesn't care?
So let's send 50 crews, each to fix 200m of road, and have each construction project take 6 months.Originally posted by J-hop
There are 16,000kms of paved roadway in Calgary. With limited budget you probably end up with the decision each year of doing a quick fix on a large area or a full fix on a very small area.
Seriously, how do you let construction take down a major 4 lane artery down to 2 lanes for an entire year at a time...
(I lived through the addition of bus express lanes on Center St N at McKnight. My 20min bus ride became 40+ each way)
Every single construction project in Calgary
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Thanks Maxis!Originally posted by J-hop
People always talk about how simple it is to run a city
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All I hear is taxes going up... more requests... need more road crews.Originally posted by Swank
I just submitted one through 311 online, we'll see how fast that goes nowhere. My poor car is getting worn down from off-roading to work
I'm worried about starting to bike and how quickly I'll pop a tire. You could say our roads are... not all they're cracked up to be.
A previously owned vehicle was lowered and a little rough riding on the drive home with the bad roads. I had every pot hole fixed on my regular route through 311. The app wasn't around back then so I'd call them in.Originally posted by Swank
I just submitted one through 311 online, we'll see how fast that goes nowhere. My poor car is getting worn down from off-roading to work
I like neat cars.
I was not aware that Calgary had the infinite money you'd need to do this.Originally posted by jwslam
So let's send 50 crews, each to fix 200m of road, and have each construction project take 6 months.
Seriously, how do you let construction take down a major 4 lane artery down to 2 lanes for an entire year at a time...
(I lived through the addition of bus express lanes on Center St N at McKnight. My 20min bus ride became 40+ each way)
Every single construction project in Calgary
Your 50 crews would also repair only 10 kilometers of road when all is said and done. That's 0.000625% of all the roads in Calgary. At the rate you describe it'd take 800 years to fix all the roads.
Are you just the smartest guy alive or what
Yea there is waste on city crews for sure but to think it's a "simple fix" shows a complete ignorance to the complexity of running a city.
Funny because when do these conversations usually come up? While people are doggin it over a coffee/cig break
Where is the sarcasm font when you need it.Originally posted by b_t
I was not aware that Calgary had the infinite money you'd need to do this.
Your 50 crews would also repair only 10 kilometers of road when all is said and done. That's 0.000625% of all the roads in Calgary. At the rate you describe it'd take 800 years to fix all the roads.
Are you just the smartest guy alive or what
internet sarcasm is a dangerous game manOriginally posted by jwslam
Where is the sarcasm font when you need it.
if you are posting after HiTempGuy you gotta use the /s cuz once the wingnuts on here get going it's hard to judge what's a real opinion, what's jokes, and what is just craziness