Drone discussion

[The_Penguin]

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Flying quad copters is damn easy. Try flying a 120sr in wind haha, no power, super light. Harder to fly in wind than my 130. Don't know how people flying the typical 4 rotor drones get into hairy situations. They are literally the tricycle of RC flying

I was in Cabo a couple weeks ago, and watched a couple drones flying. One was obviously a Phantom, the other, not so sure.
I was quite impressed at how stable they were. I haven't had any experience with drones, but even with a medium wind these things could hover in 1 spot and really stick there.

[J-hop]

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I was in Cabo a couple weeks ago, and watched a couple drones flying. One was obviously a Phantom, the other, not so sure.
I was quite impressed at how stable they were. I haven't had any experience with drones, but even with a medium wind these things could hover in 1 spot and really stick there.

Yea it makes them great for filming as they are incredibly stable even in wind. In terms of skill needed to fly one they are at the bottom of the spectrum. So if you get into trouble you're probably screwing around or need to buy something like a simple 120 SR and learn the basics.

I guess it's like putting someone that can't drive in an awd car with every stability control possible. They think they know how to drive when in reality the car is constantly saving them from themselves so they end up doing stupid shit

[mazdavirgin]

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I was in Cabo a couple weeks ago, and watched a couple drones flying. One was obviously a Phantom, the other, not so sure.
I was quite impressed at how stable they were. I haven't had any experience with drones, but even with a medium wind these things could hover in 1 spot and really stick there.

Quad rotor drones are fundamentally unstable systems they have 6 degrees of freedom and 4 actuators. This means that it's actually "impossible" for a human to fly without computer assistance. When you're watching one of those drones what you're actually seeing is a computer constantly adjusting the speed of all 4 rotors independently of each other to keep the drone level. This occurs thousands of times per second. So really you don't fly these things per say... You just tell them which direction to go.

[snowcat]

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Phantom's gimbal is way better than Mavic's rubber mount and both are way better than Spark's 2 axis gimbal. t.

I disagree. The mavic's gimbals is great!

[Xtrema]

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I disagree. The mavic's gimbals is great!

Mine is too jerky on sudden stops. You really have to fly smooth. Phantom is better on this regard.

And it get worse the colder it gets as the rubber hardens.

[Bladeh]

Guess only place I could fly is up my ass.

Crazy Canadian Drone Laws! A Police Officer's Perspective.

[RickDaTuner]

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Guess only place I could fly is up my ass.

Crazy Canadian Drone Laws! A Police Officer's Perspective.

While I agree that the drone laws are a over the top.

I'm having a hard time agreeing with this guys definitions and interpretations of the interim law, he also lacks a great deal of understanding of the terms used in the legislation.

IIRC the original Definition of a Drone was a remotely controlled unmanned aircraft that could be operated further than a Typical Line Of Sight, but due to the sheer amount of different type of drones available, and the ability for them to record video, they all became grouped into one classification.

Hard to believe this guys' job is to interpret law with the liberties hes taking in defining terminology and practical application.

[Xtrema]

I do agree the language need to tightened up. If I'm 90m above, I'm theoretically 75m away from everything.

[J-hop]

I'm pretty sure this is like tobagganing bylaws. It's meant to give authorities the power to penalize morons doing stupid things like flying into flight paths. The average user flying in a soccer field probably isn't going to get tagged.

[Xtrema]

Surprising turn of event in a new July update:
https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviati...y-legally.html

Fly your drone:

below 90 m above the ground
at least 30 m away from vehicles, vessels, and the public (if your drone weighs more than 250 g up to 1 kg)
at least 75 m away from vehicles, vessels, and the public (if your drone weighs more than 1 kg up to 35 kg)
at least 5.5 km away from aerodromes (any airport, seaplane base, or areas where aircraft take-off and land)
at least 1.8 km away from heliports or aerodromes used by helicopters only
outside of controlled or restricted airspace
at least 9 km away from a natural hazard or disaster area
away from areas where operation could interfere with police or first responders
during the day and not in clouds
within your sight at all times
within 500 m of yourself or closer
only if clearly marked with your name, address, and telephone number

So you now only need to stay 30m away from the public, distinction of airport vs heliport added and distance from them is lowered.

This is way better.

[speedog]

Much, much better but the city of Calgary's bylaws with respect to no RC devices within city parks (and school grounds?) still leaves things quite restricted in Calgary.

Below 90 meters still stops drone operators from flying over downtown although the heliport on the west end trumps that anyways.

Peoplease will still fly where they shouldn't - some knowingly and others not.

[Xtrema]

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Much, much better but the city of Calgary's bylaws with respect to no RC devices within city parks (and school grounds?) still leaves things quite restricted in Calgary.

Below 90 meters still stops drone operators from flying over downtown although the heliport on the west end trumps that anyways.

Peoplease will still fly where they shouldn't - some knowingly and others not.

Just did the map again, 80% of city is now drone friendly from the perspective of federal regulation with the new 1.8km and 5.5km rule. Under the new rule, you can now fly it around East Village or Lindsay park (other than city by law), while most of the core is still prohibited (tall concrete and metal building screw with navigation of the drone anyway).

You just have to be 30m away from people and stuff, which is much more manageable.

And if you got a DJI Spark, you have even less restriction.

[ZeroGravity]

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Just did the map again, 80% of city is now drone friendly from the perspective of federal regulation with the new 1.8km and 5.5km rule. Under the new rule, you can now fly it around East Village or Lindsay park (other than city by law), while most of the core is still prohibited (tall concrete and metal building screw with navigation of the drone anyway).

You just have to be 30m away from people and stuff, which is much more manageable.

And if you got a DJI Spark, you have even less restriction.

How does one create a map like the one you've mentioned?

[Xtrema]

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How does one create a map like the one you've mentioned?

http://obeattie.github.io/gmaps-radius/

Draw 1.8km around the 4 hospitals and 2 heliports

Draw 5.5km around yyc and springbank

[Mitsu3000gt]

If I understand the new rules correctly, it's much more friendly for Real Estate photographers. I still think there will be issues with people claiming/thinking drones are spying on them in their windows though unless that is covered by the bylaws.

[Xtrema]

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If I understand the new rules correctly, it's much more friendly for Real Estate photographers. I still think there will be issues with people claiming/thinking drones are spying on them in their windows though unless that is covered by the bylaws.

There is still the 30m rule and the fact you can't let them know it's commercial activity. Everything quoted is recreational only.

[ZeroGravity]

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http://obeattie.github.io/gmaps-radius/

Draw 1.8km around the 4 hospitals and 2 heliports

Draw 5.5km around yyc and springbank

oh nice. thx.

[speedog]

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http://obeattie.github.io/gmaps-radius/

Draw 1.8km around the 4 hospitals and 2 heliports

Draw 5.5km around yyc and springbank

8 heliports within city limits - https://www.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/solut...tion_tool.html

[Mitsu3000gt]

Has anyone revisited the idea of getting a drone now that the DJI Mavic Air is out? It's so small it seems to fall under some of the more relaxed laws, but it's possible I'm not interpreting them correctly. The idea of a palm-sized drone that has almost all the features from the Phantom line and more features than the Mavic Pro has got me more interested than I have been before about getting one. It also seems like it would be easy to travel/hike with, and use it in places far away from people that have much more relaxed laws.

[Kavy]

I have a spark that I modified to be under 250g so no drone laws apply to it. I had an inspire and a phantom previously and use the spark all the time. I like the new mavic but I don’t see the large benefit of my changing over, for those with a phantom I could defiantly see the appeal.