Kim Jong releases "student" prisoner.

[ZenOps]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-40264468

I mean technically its not wrong to label the guy a studier - I guess. Really, all James Bond did was study his surroundings most of the time (and occasionally got into a fist fight or shot someone)

Is Kim Jong In the most atypical American man ever? Likes nukes and basketball, maybe he should run for president after Trump?

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-40264468

I mean technically its not wrong to label the guy a studier - I guess. Really, all James Bond did was study his surroundings most of the time (and occasionally got into a fist fight or shot someone)

Is Kim Jong In the most atypical American man ever? Likes nukes and basketball, maybe he should run for president after Trump?

Atypical means the opposite of what you think it means FYI....

[Feruk]

Grammar police, when it shows up, should at least be right...

Check this out: "atypical" ----------------> "a typical"

With that, the statement makes complete sense.

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Grammar police, when it shows up, should at least be right...

Check this out: "atypical" ----------------> "a typical"

With that, the statement makes complete sense.

Probably should read that in the context of the sentence, it still does not work. You have to remove the 'a' for it to make any sense.

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Probably should read that in the context of the sentence, it still does not work. You have to remove the 'a' for it to make any sense.

Hahaha yea I guess maybe if you attach the a to the end of most and read in a mario type Italian accent it might make sense.

Wasn't trying to be a grammar nazi, just atypical is not a typical word used and to use it one should probably know what it means!!

[ZenOps]

I will expand further. Kim Jong should be running the US when he conquers it.

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So NK kept this kid alive for a year in a coma, and he didnt last a week once back in US care?

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So NK kept this kid alive for a year in a coma, and he didnt last a week once back in US care?

He wasn't in a coma, that's just what NK said. He was in a persistent vegetative state. The family most likely made a decision and pulled life support.

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I have had a guilty desire to go check out North Korea all my life, this scares the shit out of me though.
Can't imagine what this kid went through, if you watched his confession speech, it was clearly written by North Korea for him to say, and all the drugs/experiments/tests they tried on him as a guinea pig..
Lots of speculation, but this is North Korea we're talking about. Its not far fetched at all.

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So NK kept this kid alive for a year in a coma, and he didnt last a week once back in US care?

He was tortured in NK, and once he was close to death they sent him back so that he wouldn't die in NK.

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He was tortured in NK, and once he was close to death they sent him back so that he wouldn't die in NK.

I recall seeing an article that said there was no signs of torture, but that he likely had a heart attack or something. Until that article, I figured torture too.

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I recall seeing an article that said there was no signs of torture, but that he likely had a heart attack or something. Until that article, I figured torture too.

There was a doctors examination i saw on the news, and they stated there was brain trauma but couldn't figure out the cause.
You don't just get brain trauma from being treated humanely.

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You don't just get brain trauma from being treated humanely.

Oh yeah, nobody's suggesting humane treatment.

[swak]

CBC Article from last night confirms essentially it wasn't a coma.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/otto-wa...dies-1.4168166

[Mitsu3000gt]

The doctors said his vegetative condition was consistent with oxygen deprivation, perhaps from drowning torture or who knows what else. I'm sure they have all kinds of sick things or experiments they have cooked up to do to people.

I think it's pretty clear that NK sent him home because they knew he was going to die and didn't want him to die on NK soil and cause another international incident.

He didn't deserve to die or even get 15 years hard labor, but seriously WTF is going through your mind when you try to steal something from NK. Anyone going there already knows there is a chance you will be arrested for political reasons even if you do nothing wrong, let alone stealing propaganda sign. The outcome of his actions was extremely severe yet highly predictable. Never in a million years would I go there. There are plenty of documentaries on the country (a good one from VICE too) that shows me all I need to know.

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... but seriously WTF is going through your mind when you try to steal something from NK. Anyone going there already knows there is a chance you will be arrested for political reasons even if you do nothing wrong, let alone stealing propaganda sign. The outcome of his actions was extremely severe yet highly predictable. Never in a million years would I go there. There are plenty of documentaries on the country (a good one from VICE too) that shows me all I need to know.

I am leaning to honestly believe that he didn't even steal it or attempt to steal the poster.
The only proof they have is a blurry video not showing any faces or distinguishing qualities that it is him.

He only confessed because he was coerced to do so, or likely threatened with torture or something.

I think most people have done even some sort of research or know what kind of crazy goes on in North Korea that they wouldn't even attempt to do something as stupid as steal a poster.

[ZenOps]

I know why people wanted to go to North Korea:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4067341.html

Yes, that's a shopping bag full - for a street price of 80 cents at the time. Since North Korea is pretty much a completely separate economic entity from the rest of the world, plants are grown and sold as plants, and not a part of the US paradigm of selling plants as drugs, or the criminal paradigm of selling drugs for whatever price the buyer is willing to pay.

Stealing propaganda is definitely a no-no everywhere in the world. You would also be thrown in jail if not shot for stealing the US constitution, which arguably is just a piece of parchment where only the words are of value. If a North Korean defector stole the US constitution or the Mona Lisa, it would be a truly worthy feat.

I mean, people in the US will kick their neighbors asses, literally - for defacing a $5 plastic "Vote Trump" or "Vote Hillary" sign.

As far as I'm concerned, this guy did the equivalent of steal a "Vote Trump" sign in front of a group of Trump supporters. He got everything he had coming to him and more.

[Gestalt]

This seems a more level headed discussion of bis condition.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...injury/530586/

[Gestalt]

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I know why people wanted to go to North Korea:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4067341.html

Yes, that's a shopping bag full - for a street price of 80 cents at the time. Since North Korea is pretty much a completely separate economic entity from the rest of the world, plants are grown and sold as plants, and not a part of the US paradigm of selling plants as drugs, or the criminal paradigm of selling drugs for whatever price the buyer is willing to pay.

Stealing propaganda is definitely a no-no everywhere in the world. You would also be thrown in jail if not shot for stealing the US constitution, which arguably is just a piece of parchment where only the words are of value. If a North Korean defector stole the US constitution or the Mona Lisa, it would be a truly worthy feat.

I mean, people in the US will kick their neighbors asses, literally - for defacing a $5 plastic "Vote Trump" or "Vote Hillary" sign.

As far as I'm concerned, this guy did the equivalent of steal a "Vote Trump" sign in front of a group of Trump supporters. He got everything he had coming to him and more.

That's harsh. No one deserves that.

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The family denied an autopsy, so the chances of knowing what really happened is diminishing.