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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
    And serious question from someone who knows more than me. If we've got effort and motivation issues, isn't that a leadership issue? If so, shouldn't we be looking at getting rid of our ineffective leaders? Trade Gio for prospects.
    The two alternate captains, especially Brouwer, look uninspired most nights whereas Gio plays hard most nights. Trading Gio for prospects would just set this team back a few more years. Even though he won't be a Norris trophy candidate, he's definitely a top pairing defenceman.

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    We're not good enough and consistent to go all in right now (and pay the trade deadline premium) for rentals and no reason to sell off anything since we're just coming out of a rebuild and we're just on the cusp of being a team that makes regular playoff appearances. Because of that I think we'll be pretty status quo. Any moves I think we'll make is to get some minor league depth or mid to late round picks in exchange for non-impact players/assets.

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    Totally agree. The core of young guys we have have a bright future.

    Teams like Anaheim, San Jose, LA, are all on the decline... Were not even anywhere near our "window".

    Side note, anyone else instantly become a Knights fan after that segment on Engelland and their opening night... What a great story, if the Flames aren't in, I'm rooting for the Knights... True underdog story right there.

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    The Knights are a fun team to watch (Rage is definitely onto something!). They are quick on the puck every single play, they're relentless.

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    I wish we had the Vegas GG instead of this GG as a coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NissanFanBoy View Post
    Side note, anyone else instantly become a Knights fan after that segment on Engelland and their opening night... What a great story, if the Flames aren't in, I'm rooting for the Knights... True underdog story right there.
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    The Knights are a fun team to watch (Rage is definitely onto something!). They are quick on the puck every single play, they're relentless.
    Yup, relentless is the one word I'd choose to describe the team. Doesn't matter if they're up 2 or down 3 goals, they're working every single opportunity to generate chances. I've probably mentioned it before, the 14/15 Flames team were similar to this year's Knights aside from goaltending. A little sad to think back to that year and what could've been if the Hiller/Ramo combo was any better.
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    Monahan and Brodie for Tavares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asp integra View Post
    Monahan and Brodie for Tavares?
    So give up our best forward and our 2nd best d-man who are 23/27 and under very good contracts for an upcoming UFA who is probably going to command 11+ million a year. While Tavares IMO is a top 5 player in the league it is very hard to manage those contracts for many teams that don't have a very very solid core around it. Not to mention that would be a very difficult sign and trade to manage.

    I'm quite curious what happens in the Karlsson situation out of Ottawa now. It is not often a prolific player comes up for trade with 1.5 years left on a very reasonable amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colinxx235 View Post
    So give up our best forward and our 2nd best d-man who are 23/27 and under very good contracts for an upcoming UFA who is probably going to command 11+ million a year. While Tavares IMO is a top 5 player in the league it is very hard to manage those contracts for many teams that don't have a very very solid core around it. Not to mention that would be a very difficult sign and trade to manage.

    I'm quite curious what happens in the Karlsson situation out of Ottawa now. It is not often a prolific player comes up for trade with 1.5 years left on a very reasonable amount.
    Monahan is ok but only because he plays with Johnny. He's not a top centre in the league. I had high hopes from Brodie for so many years but he has never played to his ability or potential. I would argue that Stone is as good a D man as Brodie is nowadays. I would not be surprised to see Brodie move, would make the most sense for the Flames to trade and should bring back a good return
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    I haven't looked at the stats, but I also feel Brodie has dropped off significantly this year. And it's been consistently bad, visually at least. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised to see Brodie being moved.
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    Brodies advanced stats (if you buy into that shit) have gotten worse every season for the past 3-4 seasons, straight downhill.

    Also his number are significantly worse since he stopped being paired with Gio.

    And his d-partners advances stats are all significantly worse when they've played with Brodie over anyone else on the team.

    So basically he sucks... which is probably why he's looked sucky on the ice.

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    Maybe it has to do with him playing on the left side when paired with Gio, but he used to be able to skate the puck out of harm's way and out the d-zone with ease. Now, he makes questionable decisions in all three zones and has become a turnover machine. He's also renowned for his skating, but I haven't witnessed much of that the past couple of seasons. Oftentimes you will see him get beat to the outside and his lack of footspeed has resulted in several breakaways against.

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    Trading away Gillies? is it really worth it? (I have high hopes for this guy)
    yeah we're pretty stack on goalie prospects (but they're in early 20's, takes time to develop them)
    I think Gillies(24) is just right there, just need an opportunity to shine!

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